Forward Living: Is it so weird to be in love with winter?

01/14/2011 1:59 PM |

Have you noticed how quiet the North Fork has become? It seems like the Earth and its inhabitants are taking a collective breath and hunkering down for the winter. Sure, many folks head for warmer climates, and I get it. A quick trip to an island would be welcome. But, overall, yours truly loves this time of year.

Before you label me as weird (nothing new here), allow me to state my case. The holiday hustle-bustle is over and the over-the-top glitzy advertisements are gone, along with the tourist traffic. I can once again drive from Jamesport to Mattituck in a few minutes.

The Weather Channel folks scare the bejeebies out of us with forecasts of snow and wind chill factors — so much so that folks will head to the supermarket to stock up on bread and milk after hearing a prediction of flurries. This phenomenon perplexes me. It may feel like Armageddon, but in reality it’s just snow.

There’s no doubt about it, snowstorms create hazardous driving conditions and, obviously, it’s prudent to stay off the roads. However, instead of railing against the weather, here’s some unbidden advice: As an alternative to sitting indoors eating Bon Bons, why not explore the winter wonderland in our own yards? A sense of adventure and warm clothing are all that’s needed.

When was the last time you built a snowperson (I try to be politically correct) or made a snow angel? It’s fun and can awaken the kid that dwells inside everyone.

Winter is the great time to take a walk on one of our many beaches. The views are stunning. (Yeah, I know, during the summer months guys take in the stunning bikini-clad bodies; and gals, we know what to look for!) Seriously, folks, although I’m not a photographer, my camera is always ready. Who knows when something will strike my fancy?

Lately, I’ve become mesmerized by the way the sun reflects off the water, making the Peconic Bay look like it’s studded with diamonds. Watching the various waterfowl as they nonchalantly float on the water is fascinating. Really!

Frank and I enjoy trekking through our local parks. During the winter, these areas are beautiful in their stark simplicity. Absent are the summer crowds, campers and noise. We reward our pioneering spirits with cups of steaming hot chocolate topped with real whipped cream. OK, perhaps you’re not crazy about walking, but be honest, who doesn’t like the hot chocolate-whipped cream duo?

If the out of doors still doesn’t thrill you, check out the wineries. They offer a variety of activities that can make one forget the cold, or perhaps welcome it. Otherwise, enjoy a meal prepared by our talented chefs at one of the many restaurants dotting the North Fork.

Winter is the time to nix the hot dogs, burgers, etc., and try a new recipe or cook up some comfort food. Frank will turn out a pot of his famous spaghetti sauce, making our home smell like Little Italy. When time permits, I put on my favorite music, cozy up with a good book and just be.

The way I see it, winter is a time to restore, rest and reflect. Before we know it, the earth will wake up, the crocuses will bloom and summer will arrive along with the tourists — and thank goodness for them.

I guess you’re wondering about my weirdness right about now, what with loving the winter and tourists. Well, folks, without tourism, I wouldn’t be writing about our winter wonderland because the landscape would be overrun with “file cabinet houses” (not much inspiration there).

The song “Turn, Turn, Turn” by the Byrds, a popular American folk rock band of the ’60s, strikes a chord with me. The first verse goes like this:

To everything (turn, turn, turn)
There is a season (turn, turn, turn)
And a time to every purpose under heaven.

Convinced yet?

Ms. Iannelli is a resident of Jamesport.

51 Comment

  • The Town Board is ignoring the bigger and smaller pictures. So called affordable housing programs to date amount to housing subsidies instead of new thinking about less expensive types of housing.

    Several years ago I asked the Town Board if they knew about the Tiny House Movement*. I suggested that building affordable camps would be practical and profitable but that under current law it would also be illegal. They did not know anything, and to this day are choosing to remain ignorant.

    * see

    http://www.tumbleweedhouses.com/

    http://tinyhouseblog.com/

    http://www.tinyhousedesign.com/

  • That’s the problem nation-wide. Years ago, Riverhead was a farming community, with a small population. People “up west” resided in “bedroom communities,” earning their living even further west. People here fished, farmed, or sold things to their neighbors who did.

    Not any more.

    As the housing boom hit and home prices soared, incomes didn’t rise as fast, if at all. Riverheaders who worked in the “war industries” like Grumman and Republic don’t have jobs like that any more. Most of the skilled workers in the vaunted “cradle of aviation” are retired (or dead) now.

    A generation ago the American family could live a decent middle class life on one income, buy a modest house, have a car, put kids through college and enjoy a pension and retiree health benefits.

    That’s all gone now, probably never to return.

    It’s just not realistic to think our young graduates can ever find suitably paying jobs in the numbers necessary to allow them to stay here. Not gonna happen any time soon.

    Benja is right. We have to consider things like co-housing, intentional communities, those “tiny houses” and other innovations. The opportunity to have every family live in its own house is fast passing, probably already gone.

    We need a group to start looking at these types of options.

    And it’s not just here, on high cost of living Long Island. The fact is, the average family’s real income has essentially been stagnant for some 20 years, while costs for just about everything have risen dramatically.

    The middle class will continue to slip, it seems, while the rich get richer. Look at the attacks on union benefits, public employee salaries, etc.

    What are the proposed solutions we’ve seen so far? Eliminate or cut benefits, freeze salaries, lay off thousands. Will those people be able to buy a house or even pay their current mortgage?

    Don’t bet on it.

  • What on earth gives a “child of the north fork” the right to live here as an adult? Oh it’s a nice, cozy, warm thing to say, that our children can be raised here, go off to college, and then come back and live in an affordable house (on our construction/landscaping/retail/service industry salaries).
    But honestly, by what right does anyone claim the opportunity for affordable housing? And why on earth does the government have to subsidize it?
    Bottom line, if you can’t afford to live here, don’t. Move to Ridge. Come out to visit on weekends and see your parents. Reminisce about your old days hanging out in Southold, and then pick yourself up, get some motivation, get a better job, and buy a house here.
    To create affordable housing decreases the overall value of the homes we already have, and that negatively impacts all of us. Yes, affordable housing hurts the majority of homeowners here, by lowering our investment values. I don’t care if my landscaper drives up here from Coram, that’s not my problem, it’s his, and I bet he is happy for the work.
    Benja comment in 3, 2, 1:

  • Absurd! This is the same Jane Bonner, whom not that long ago, was all for “mom and pop” shops in Rocky Point. Now, it seems as if she could care less. I myeslf, will definitely keep shoping at Brians. I’m not so sure however, about our “dedicated” Ms. Bonner.

    As for Mr. Staller, the only thing that concers him, is filling his pockets even more, so he can keep his upper class lifestyle, over in Old Field. Truly upsetting news. Rocky Point is becoming another town filled of strip malls, that give back very little to our community

  • I’m not leaving you Brian

  • Brian’s has so many loyal customers, especially for their great selection of fish and healthy fish at that, and because of their pond supplies. I think Brian’s will be okay. I’m not a huge fan of Petco, and although I will probably shop there once or twice, I will still always be a customer of Brian’s.

  • Brian’s Tropical Aquarium & Pets is a pillar within our community! In but a few weeks we will watch their staff as always getting the cheers and support from all of us in the St Patrick’s Day Parade. This truly is a total disregard to a wonderful group of people that everyone has gotten to know. I’ve been to a Petco and can say honestly that unless they take on a “predatory policy” that they’re not giving anything away. Brian’s pricing competes. However, there’s no comparrison to staff and service. You go to Brian’s to: Buy a pet, feed a pet, outfit a pet, and most of all…. to walk away feeling good because you had pleasant staff encounters, great service and a big thank you and a smile!

  • Reading about Petco coming in to the old Frank’s Nursery has been so upsetting. We used to buy our tropical fish (which we no longer have) and just feel this is wrong. To have a big corporation right across the street is just not right. I can only hope that Brian’s customers remain loyal to him. Best of luck.

    Barbara Santacroce, Miller Place

  • WE will continue to support Brians…. why bring a competitor in when we have the best there is…. What a slap in the face the arrival of Petco is to Brian’s, but I feel confident that, as a long time member of the community and a business that caters to it’s community in so many ways… ways that are part of what Rocky Point represents, Brians will continue on… hale and hearty… love to all the staff and owners… keep it up, you are awesome!!!!!

  • I love Brian’s as much as the next person, but when you’re talking about prices, Brian’s is almost always higher. I go to them for my tropical fish, but that’s about it. When I can buy my cat and dog food for $3-4 cheaper at Petco or PetsMart, I will always go where I can save money. And as Mr. Flanagan was quoted in the article, Brian’s does not have the buying power of a Petco, and so when it comes to medicines, high end food and food products, he just can’t compete. While I will continue to buy my fish from Brian’s, I will continue to buy everything else where I can save the most money, and in the end, that’s not Brian’s.

  • PETA is always uncovering the fact that Petco suppliers are abusive to their animals. How could someone shop at a place like the just to “save a couple of bucks”?

    http://www.peta.org/b/thepetafiles/archive/2010/04/27/is-petco-misleading-customers-about-its-abusive-suppliers.aspx

  • It’s very simple. When I have the choice to spend $34 or $40 on my cat food, I’m going to go with the $34… When it comes to spending either $45 or $50 on my dog food, it’s going to be the $45. When everything is around 10-15% higher at one place, I will always shop at the cheaper place. In this economy, a couple bucks saved is a couple bucks more in my wallet than the person shopping at Brian’s.

  • I find Petco to be very expensive and can usually find the products I am looking for at a cheaper price somewhere else — including Brian’s. To top that, Brian’s has great customer service and they treat you like family when you shop there. I will not be visiting that Petco I can guarantee it. Never really liked that store anyway. Hope you can hang on Brian! :)

  • With that logic, what’s preventing you from just stealing pet food? Think of all the money you would save that way!

    It’s becoming so easy for people to use “the economy” as an excuse to stop seeing right from wrong.

  • If I’m not mistaken, we live in a capitalistic society where money is king. And when it comes down to it, it’s basically survival of the fittest. If Brian’s survives, it will be because they have changed their hours (who closes at 7:45?), lowered their prices, and got more competitive. Capitalism fosters competition, and Brian’s will have their hand’s full.

    As for stealing food, that’s illegal… Saving money is not illegal last time I checked.

  • I’m sure Brians dedicated customers will return, its not like competive shooping is unheard of?
    How many delis, Pizza, Gas stations, bars, Chinese food, nail shops, barbers are in Rocky Point. Its the nature of the business, and to “blame” Bonner is what is absurd, the town council members have no real say as to what type of business comes to their district, as long as its legitimate and not detrimental to the community.
    I wish my town had more choice of places to shop. I know Petco in Rocky Point for me is better than traveling to Selden

  • shopping of course, not shooping

  • shopping of course, not shooping

  • Another great feature of capitalism is that the consumer decides to a large extent who wins and loses. In a relatively wealthy nation we can be socially responsible with our purchases and decide to support businesses that we’d like to see thrive. To me, saving a “couple of dollars” is not worth fucking over a local community business to support a large franchise with no regard for the welfare of the animals they are selling.

  • As a “new-timer” to the area I tried Brian’s and while I do like the store atomsphere, I did not find any differences in service, in fact I kind of felt ingnored. As far as Petco in that shop, I can think of more useful type stores – Trader Joe’s or Panera’s comes to mind as something different, something cool.

  • Competition? Brian’s has been here 30 + yrs. Along with that, there are many smaller shops and other local businesses on the 25A corridor and vicinity. Petco competes with your local vets that provide innoculations, but also QUALIFIED ADVICE, at Petco, they’re not vets. – - Priceless if you really love your pets!

    There are grooming services and shops. MANY of them. If you love your pets as much as yourself, would you change hairdressers or barbers for a lower price? Some… many will, because they won’t look at their pet needs like their own grooming and health needs.

    But, how will that “slice” negatively impact your groomer or vet? Ask them, they’re feeling a big pinch with the economy and fear non survival. One big Petco and many other servicers may fall. I doubt Brian’s failure at all. 30 yrs + in the business teaches a person to thrive and survive. They have and they will. They, according to some writers here can’t buy at deep discount as Petco is not true. In an era of many FTC actions on ROT (restraint of trade), any supplier to Brian’s or Petco would not want such litigation.

    With all the Petco type box stores and other similar chains, the bulk of the business is still the “Mama Pop” store and it would be a big mistake for such vendors to allow that to happen. Before predicting, do some research. Guess what? 2 calls to two common vendors confirmed their pricing is uniform.

    What is really happening is too many of the same type of store hurts every one of them. price wars generate casualties. Profit=payroll equation. Nobody wins. You get vacant stores. How many empty neighborhood drug stores in the wake of a CVS and Rite-Aid in the same area?

    Hey, we’re lucky, our Waldbaum’s isn’t on the list of store closings in todays paper. 6 LI stores closing and 800 jobs – POOF!

    To make it work, to fill empty stores, what’s wrong is that there is no study that:
    -List the products or services missing in the community.
    -Density and thriving success or failure of a particular type of business, is there a void?

    Team efforts of a Civic, Chamber of Commerce and Town hall that could use such marketing data to build a community not split it. For now, I don’t see those 3 even close to being on the same page and that’s the “weed in this garden.” They should find out what we need… then go out and get it.

  • Peter,

    While the suppliers might have uniform pricing to everyone (I know this is not true, I ran a pet store for the four years I was in college, and we had to battle to get reduced prices), the markup is not uniform. A place like Petco can afford to take less of a gross profit on an item, compared to Brian’s, so where as Brian’s might take a 10-15% GP margin, Petco might be content with 4-7%.

    I’d be sad to see Brian’s go, I do love his selection of fish. However, having a Petco within five minutes is going to be extremely nice.

  • Peter,

    While the suppliers might have uniform pricing to everyone (I know this is not true, I ran a pet store for the four years I was in college, and we had to battle to get reduced prices), the markup is not uniform. A place like Petco can afford to take less of a gross profit on an item, compared to Brian’s, so where as Brian’s might take a 10-15% GP margin, Petco might be content with 4-7%.

    I’d be sad to see Brian’s go, I do love his selection of fish. However, having a Petco within five minutes is going to be extremely nice.

  • bring Petco here and create Jobs…….im all for it!

  • There’s a lot here I agree with, but Petco does have the advantage with suppliers based on volume and exclusivity contracts when compared to a small pet shop. Petco is able to write off any litigation as the cost of doing business.

  • If Ms. Bonner is such a loyal customer then why the hell is there a Petco coming to Rocky Point right across the street from Brian’s Aquarium, which has been in business longer then I have been on this earth. If she is such the loyal customer as she says she is then she should have prevented this from happening. But in the end its all about money and it is extremely disheartening to see people who would rather line their own pockets with cash then try to preserve an Amazing!! family owned business, which has given back so much to this community!!! I know i will continue to stay loyal to Brian’s and I hope all of his other customers stay loyal to him as well.

  • This is more of Jane’s two faced comments. Says whatever she thinks people want to hear. Staller owns the shopping center – Staller gave Jane’s campaign $6,000 over the last coupe of years. Does anyone think there might be a connection?

  • The blame does not lie with Ms. Bonner. HOWEVER, in the past, she had no problem voicing her opinion on what she felt Rocky Point “needed”. And with her opinion and position, she packed a good amount of clout. She always talked about how she wanted Rocky Point to mirror towns such as Port Jeff, or Huntington. Funny, I don’t see a Petco in either of those two towns?

    Jane Bonner was always sticking up the the “little guy”. Now, I guess its just more convient to keep the bigger guys happy. How “bitter sweet” indeed……

    And to use pizza parlors, chinese food places, barbers, etc (also small, independent shops) competing against one another, to big retail chain stores, competing against the mom and pop shops, is not the best comparison.

  • Just what we need….really…..can’t we find something else of value? I am a loyal customer of Brian’s and will remain so. Just another way to jam up the shopping center with a invaluable store.

  • We as a community must remember that Brian’s Aquarium for the last three decades has been supporting our community whenever our schools, charities, churches, fundraisers, chinese auctions, etc. are looking for donations for their events. Will Petco do this? I wonder. Also, his employees are very knowledgeable in the care of animals, will Petco’s employees be as good? He has the concern and care for animals, will Petco be the same? His employees will help take large packages to your car without expecting a tip, will Petco do the same? Whenever you come into Brian’s there is always an employee there to greet you and help you. After Petco’s grand opening will you find anyone to assist you? These big companies are only after the almighty dollar and so is Mr. Staller owner of the shopping center where Petco is opening. Why not build something by where the eyesore drivein used to be? Because it’s all about money. A free standing building will not be as costly. Remember all the good Brian’s has done for the community, we must support him in his uphill battle to put Petco out of business. Salute the float of Brian’s Aquarium as it goes by during the St. Patrick’s Day Parade – remember they have the animals at heart. Petco will hire kids who make minimum wage and God help your animal if you take their advice. Thanks Jane Bonner for nothing!

  • How is adding another “tax base” going to happen? There is a limited market for pet supply, product. If one chain dominates the scene, they will corner the available market and push other business out…..then there will be one store selling pet products and three which went out of business….decreasing the tax base and putting people out of work. Allowing and supporting a minium wage paying chain is wrong to do. Grocery stores sell pet food , so does box chains that are in driving distance of Rocky Point, let PETCO continue to get the business in high density areas with people who already go there. DO NOT ALLOW PETCO HERE IN RP!!!!
    Besides, how are people suppose to pay their taxes on minimum wage paying jobs? Local Vets, groomers as well as local pet stores will be negativly impacted by this.
    What is going on with the CAMPAIGN PROMISE OF CD2 Bonner to support Mom and Pop stores in this area? Now she calls this new move BITTERSWEET?
    It STINKS ON ICE is what it is.
    People who love Brian’s, their local vets and groomers must write to Brookhaven and show up at Town Board meeting and boycott PETCO. I like the rural charm of this area, I do not want to see it become Centereach like.
    And isn’t the Khols shopping center getting a little too full? What is up next, mixed use housing over the new PETCO where people use the roof top of the building for recreation and barbaque?
    How about a walkable Pine Barren with sidewalks so the seniors and children do not fall over tree roots and get hurt. What about muzzeling wildlife so it doean’t hurt people? What about red light STOP signs, so when you roll over one with out 100% stopping they flash your plate number and send you a ticket.
    And I think it is a REAL GOOD idea to allow the homeless people to just freeze to death and thin out the herd too, just like with what happened to Robbie in January, and have no concern from our district reps. or local civic over the matter.
    Wake up Rocky Point.

  • Ok, we’re being led to believe that once Petco moves in, the landlord, Mr. Staller will start paying taxes and there will be inceased tax revenue? Hold on there!

    That’s got to be the biggest BS job on all of us! Are we being led to believe that ALL OF THE VACANT commercial property landlords are NOT PAYING TAXES?

    If that’s true, I would like to see a PUBLIC DISCLOSURE of the TAX ARREARS on all of these, just like the long list of HOME OWNERS under threat of losing their homes as their properties are listed by the town for tax arrears and under threat of LOSING TO FORECLOSURE.

    Business districts THRIVE WITH DIVERSITY not SATURATION.

    Our shelters are overfilled with HOMELESS ANIMALS.

    That means our level of Pet Ownership is Saturated.

    Unless there’s an increase to the Pet Polulation, more Pet Stores means Divide and Reduce the Shared Revenue between the Saturated Merchant Group that will now be greater by a Large Appetite Super Store. Many smaller than Brian’s businesses will fall.

  • Joe, I’m impressed, you “ran a pet store for the four years you were in college.” Sounds like you had a similar opportunity to that of many of the employees of the local shops. If Petco was there, your parents and you would have had a harder time to get you through school.

    What you say is nonsense to the way business is done on the corporate level. I know this because unlike your experience, mine has been in Corporate Mass Merchant Management.

    8 years with a 63 store chain and “responsible for expansion. 11 stores when I started. I know the approach we used to succeed and i know the damage we left in our wake. Our full intention was predatory and the bigger we got, the easier it was. I hated that job and what I felt like with every “win.” I left and wound up with a 2 store, 2 partner company. Expansion fever hit and in 3 tears there were 24. We didn’t care, we sold at cost to “steal a deal” if we had to. Profits dropped, so did wages. Part time college stock boys terminated and sales staf’s job got miserable, they had to do it. They also earned less, commision was a % of the profits.

    I went on to start my own business and thrived for 20 years. I had to compete with larger box stores, but having a better understanding of the industry, I found that suppliers would, and they did, support me equally. I learned quickly that in my career past, my victims simply did not know how to negotiate with suppliers.

    Suppliers want saturation and don’t want to lose locations selling their prodcuts. We are in a new age of ‘point of sale” technology that provides demographics to a retailer and supplier. This has created smarter business relationships between vendors, retailers and even the consumer. I doubt that Petco will battle with a price war. They have P&L to deal with, just like Brian’s and others.

    Brian’s will be able to sustain parallel prices and selection. They are a mature developed and well disciplined retailer. The bigger issue is that “the pie gets another big slice.” Will there be enough to feed all or is it less for all? If less, how can thrive and survive.

    In our weak economy, we should not disrrupt well working retail environments, but develop those that don’t.

  • Joe, I’m impressed, you “ran a pet store for the four years you were in college.” Sounds like you had a similar opportunity to that of many of the employees of the local shops. If Petco was there, your parents and you would have had a harder time to get you through school.

    What you say is nonsense to the way business is done on the corporate level. I know this because unlike your experience, mine has been in Corporate Mass Merchant Management.

    8 years with a 63 store chain and “responsible for expansion. 11 stores when I started. I know the approach we used to succeed and i know the damage we left in our wake. Our full intention was predatory and the bigger we got, the easier it was. I hated that job and what I felt like with every “win.” I left and wound up with a 2 store, 2 partner company. Expansion fever hit and in 3 tears there were 24. We didn’t care, we sold at cost to “steal a deal” if we had to. Profits dropped, so did wages. Part time college stock boys terminated and sales staf’s job got miserable, they had to do it. They also earned less, commision was a % of the profits.

    I went on to start my own business and thrived for 20 years. I had to compete with larger box stores, but having a better understanding of the industry, I found that suppliers would, and they did, support me equally. I learned quickly that in my career past, my victims simply did not know how to negotiate with suppliers.

    Suppliers want saturation and don’t want to lose locations selling their prodcuts. We are in a new age of ‘point of sale” technology that provides demographics to a retailer and supplier. This has created smarter business relationships between vendors, retailers and even the consumer. I doubt that Petco will battle with a price war. They have P&L to deal with, just like Brian’s and others.

    Brian’s will be able to sustain parallel prices and selection. They are a mature developed and well disciplined retailer. The bigger issue is that “the pie gets another big slice.” Will there be enough to feed all or is it less for all? If less, how can thrive and survive.

    In our weak economy, we should not disrrupt well working retail environments, but develop those that don’t.

  • Brian is not only a wonderful person but a great businessman. He does not deserve this…especially from a town that he has given so much too. A Petco is the last thing we need in Rocky Point! I hope everyone continues to support Brian and put Petco out of business.

  • I’m certain that Petco’s revenue from the sale of live animals is negligible. Their profits come from pet services and products. However, I do agree the argument for increased tax revenue is absurd.

  • What a poor store to put in that shopping center, who needs it seriously? Brian’s Aquarium was more than enough. Thats just putting a hard working local out of business for some large chain pet company. Very dissapointed. There a number of differnt stores etc. that could be put in there. Brains should of just move in the building and market themselves better. Whats Next for Rocky Point? Walmart?

  • Yeah ruin a family business which has been here for years and has given back so much to community it for a couple of minimum wage jobs that you cant even make a living off

  • Councilwoman Jane Bonner, whose district includes Rocky Point, called Petco coming to town as “bittersweet.” What a load of dog poo. Chocolate is bittersweet. Having Petco coming into Rocky Point is wrong its just wrong. It’s downright mean and criminal. Brian’s Aquarium has continually supported the local schools and churches for over thirty years. When representatives from the local organizations come looking for donations he has generously given back to the community. A community you Jane Bonner belong to. Did you forget that you are a part of this community. This is a family – yes, a family business that has supported and and met the needs of the community in pet needs and in generosity. Where is Staller when the community is looking for donations. He can’t even have the parking plowed correctly when it snows. What an abomination.
    This business is Mr. Flanagan’s way of putting food on the table for his family and his employees family’s as well. It’s how he pays for all his family’s health needs and those of his employees. Sure Jane Bonner you see it as “Bittersweet. I’m looking at it in a totally different perspective. Add another tax base “in a pig’s eye”.. Your just wanting to line your own pockets. Ruin a family business so that you can offer a few more minimum wage jobs to teenagers who won’t give a rats ass about the communities needs or their pet needs.
    Brian’s Aquarium is a 30 year business. Mr. Flanagan has devoted his life to his business and to serving the community. He is knowledgeable compassionate, caring, generous, and kind. This is how you repay him Jane Bonner. A member of the community you serve. You Jane Bonner should be ashamed of yourself!!!!!
    I can only pray that meal worms and crickets gnaw at your conscience and as you travel down the path of pet care may you only step in doggy muffins.
    I stand by Brian’s Aquarium and his family. A pox on Petco!!!!

  • Petco isn’t that cheap either. I had my dog groomed there, and I can have it done at David’s for about the same price. And I know he likes dogs. I’ve picked up a few things in PetCo, but WalMart has more of a selection.

  • Really, you like working for $8 an hour?

  • Someone is apparently off their Meds LOL!

    Look Rocky Points problems are not Jane, its the unstable and backwards paranoia of this thread.

    Thank God Staller cared enough to look the other way and still invest in the area despite the locals.

    Lets not kid ourselves, its not like anyone here really give a rats ass about Brians.
    Theyre just looking to score political points, or their pissed off about sidewalks or some petty crap like that. It pretty obvious whos stirring the Alpo.

    Brians will be just fine, because they are great at what they do and I know we’ll still shop there often.
    Petcos a completely different breed …we dont shop WalMart either.

  • Someone is apparently off their Meds LOL!

    Look Rocky Points problems are not Jane, its the unstable and backwards paranoia of this thread.

    Thank God Staller cared enough to look the other way and still invest in the area despite the locals.

    Lets not kid ourselves, its not like anyone here really give a rats ass about Brians.
    Theyre just looking to score political points, or their pissed off about sidewalks or some petty crap like that. It pretty obvious whos stirring the Alpo.

    Brians will be just fine, because they are great at what they do and I know we’ll still shop there often.
    Petcos a completely different breed …we dont shop WalMart either.

  • Look here’s the unethical part: If Brian’s Aqquarium was dirty and animas in there were unhealthy and they were ripping off the community for years, then they would deserve what they got from.a bigger retailer. But this is a business that has SERVED the community for 30 years providing a clean, safe, healthy, reasonably priced LIVING product. Brian donates to local causes and hosts community giveaways. He’s provided solid employment to local people for years. His staff answers your questions knowledgably. This landlord, who by the way boasts an otherwise fullly rented plaza, should be ashamed to endanger the well being of such an establishment.

  • Memo to the illiterate and confused… the definition of bittersweet is “tinged with sadness”. Adding business base is a good thing, but the sadness comes from the potential impact to an existing and favorite business. Ms Bonner’s comment was appropriate.

    Point 1 – When a building sits vacant for 3+ years, like the site of the new Petco, then the community DOES lose tax base, that’s bad for the WHOLE community. Of course, if Brian’s is such a local favorite that people actively avoid Petco, then the economic laws of the free enterprise system will drive the Petco store out of business – and you can all be happy having a vacant building again.

    Point 2 – Since when does any Town Councilperson get to have ANY say over who a landlord rents an existing space to?? We’re not talking about new construction here, this was an existing building. I’m guessing the usual Bonner-Bashers would be bitching about her “squashing business growth” if she did try to do anything about Petco coming in. So typical.

  • I went to the St. Patrick’s Day Parade fundraiser at East Wind’s last night. On their tables were fliers that mentioned the supporters of this event. Brian’s Aquarium being one of them and many other family owned businesses in
    Rocky Point. NONE OF THE BIG BUSINESSES were mentioned such as Waldbaum’s, Staller Center, Michaels, Rite Aid, and I could go on but I think you get the picture. Oh by the Way Jane Bonner was there and had her picture taken with the new queen. I wonder if she paid for her dinner.

  • To Joan’s list of Rocky Point businesses that weren’t represented at the St Patrick’s Parade fundraiser you can add the likes of Kohl’s, Radio Shack, Burger King, Exxon/Mobil, and so on… but so what? Big business very rarely gets involved in such small town activities.

    What some people need to get through their thick skulls is that neither Councilwoman Bonner, nor anyone else on the Town Council, has ANY legislative authority in this case. Sorry Xsiren7, but there’s nothing “unethical” about a landlord renting a long vacant space to a viable tenant, and Gardendiva’s claim that there’s something “criminal” here is as laughable as her doggy poop prayer is juvenile and pathetic.

    For those that have a problem with the word “bittersweet”, I suggest you get yourselves a dictionary and look the word up… it’s appropriate. Putting a viable business into an eyesore vacant building is economically a good thing, but it’s sad and unfortunate that it may come at the expense of an existing small and apparently widely loved and respected business. – it’s the nature of the competitive, free-market system that’s been the basis of our economy for centuries. However, the good consumers of the Rocky Point area have a far greater ability to do something about this David and Goliath battle than the Brookhaven Town Council does; all we have to do is think with our hearts, and not with our wallets.

    And yes, Joan, the picture you painted was QUITE clear… it’s clear that you have a problem with Ms. Bonner that transcends this issue. That’s the only explanation I can think of that explains your catty and unnecessary remark regarding her attendance at the fundraiser. So tell me dear, who paid for YOUR dinner?

  • I paid for my own dinner tha was $40.00 each

  • @Beam Me Up Scotty-sorry but you can’t convince me that who a landlord rents to isn’t a matter of morals and ethics. Perhaps Staller should rent to a strip club, a bar, or a pornographic video rental center, to use examples that will really drive the point home. And since you purport to know quite a bit about this, who were Staller’s other choices, if any? Perhaps if there was more than one choice for a renter a different store might have served the community better. You really presume an awful lot when you start assaulting other people’s opinions.

  • One last thing, your comments come off as insulting, not thoughtful and insightful.

  • If those are allowable uses, he can rent to whomever he wants. He had an empty space and rented it. So would you if you were paying taxes, insurance and utilities on an empty building. Be real.