Health Column: The benefits of chocolate

02/07/2011 10:46 AM |

It’s February and the chocolate treats are plentiful. Stories touting the health benefits of chocolate — including fighting cancer — have helped spawn a wide variety of sweets, from chocolate bacon bars and bite-sized candies to chocolate gum and pasta.

Whatever your choice of chocolate indulgence, the health benefits of chocolate depend upon the type of chocolate you choose — and how much.
Most of the health benefits  claimed for dark chocolate relate to cardiovascular disease. Dark chocolate is packed with flavonoids, a group of phytochemicals that act as antioxidants. When comparing the antioxidant content of foods gram for gram, cocoa often ranks among the highest. And research shows that consuming chocolate increases the antioxidants in our blood.

A steady stream of population and lab studies link eating chocolate in moderation with heart health, including improving blood vessel function and lowering blood pressure.

Given chocolate’s rich supply of flavonoids, researchers have also investigated whether it may play a role in cancer prevention. The studies in cancer prevention are still emerging. A recent review of studies on the cancer protective properties of cocoa concluded that the evidence is limited but suggestive. More rigorous studies should be conducted on chocolate’s cancer protective role, because it provides “strong antioxidant effects in combination with a pleasurable eating experience.”

All chocolate products begin with the cacao bean. First, the bean is roasted and ground into a thick chocolate nonalcoholic liquor. This liquor, hardened, is unsweetened chocolate. When pressure is added to the liquor, it pushes out the bean’s fat, called cocoa butter. Cocoa powder is made by drying and sifting the remaining material from the liquor.

Mix up some chocolate liquor, cocoa butter, sugar and milk and the commercial chocolate treat emerges. In general, the higher the percentage of cacao, the darker the chocolate and the more intense the flavor. And as cacao content goes up, there’s less room for sugar. A bar labeled 70 percent chocolate is 70 percent cocoa plus cocoa butter and 30 percent sugar.

White chocolate only contains the butter but not any chocolate liquor. Technically it’s not even chocolate, but it gets its name because it contains cocoa butter.

The main thing from a health standpoint is to realize that it’s important not to overdo the amount of chocolate you eat as too much can result in mounting calories. But in small amounts, it can be beneficial.

The American Institute for Cancer Research, an organization that studies the relationship of nutrition to health, provided this column.

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  • Wait, Hershey published a paper trying to argue that chocolate is good for you. Shocking! No wonder it was published in a journal with such a low impact factor (CHEMISTRY CENTRAL JOURNAL, impact factor: 1.3)
    To bad its also been shown that antioxidant supplementation IS BAD FOR YOU!!! (Ristow 2009, Bjelakovic 2009)

  • http://WWW.SEETHROUGHNY.ORG
    This website does post accurate information because I was so shocked to see what the Southold Town Employees earn so I printed out the Report and showed it to several Town Employees. These Employees were shocked that the Public had access to this information and then verified that the Salary Information was correct. I can’t believe that the Town Employees that issue Town Dump and Town Park Permits actually make upwards to $60,000 PER YEAR! Also, there is not one Southold Town Police Officer who makes less than $100,000 PER YEAR.

  • The Southold Town Employee Salaries are RIDICULOUS!!!!!!!!!

  • North fork bagel cafe, Mattituck

  • Apparently Mike Domino and Trustee John Bredemeyer are both literarily challenged.

    In other words, they have trouble understanding what they read. They both misread my letter last week. And both of them attacked me for things I never wrote.

    I forgive them. Now, maybe they can do something for me and the community?

    Will either or both the North Fork Environmental Council and Southold Town Trustees post a copy online of Trustee John Bredemeyer’s West Creek shellfish land status report?

  • I’d like to see you handle any town job – except cleaning toilets.

  • Floridapet, Ms. Fleischman has been very polite and fair in her letters. She has a valid point of view, and so do those who take “what she says seriously.” Calling them a “half-wit” is completely uncalled for. It only serves to undermine your own argument, for those who can’t compete with logic resort to ad hominem.

  • North Road Deli..fresh from the oven

  • Without any doubt, floridapet25 has his lips firmly attached to the taxpayer teat.

    The nastiness, sense of entitlement, implied superiority…

    Plenty of people who have obtained much more challenging (and practical) degrees don’t make the $150,000 that many teachers do.

    Most people are judged and paid by performance. Why should teachers be exempt? Educational outcomes have been getting worse as salaries have risen.

    We spend more per child per year for education than almost anywhere else in the world, and floridapet thinks you should be paying MORE.

    After all, it’s “for the children”.

  • North fork bagel cafe, Mattituck

  • WHAT ABOUT THE COPS? Okay, teachers make too much, but honestly, WHAT ABOUT THE COPS?

    I dare the state of new york to try to limit aid, salaries, retirement, etc., of the police in the SAME way that they are doing it to the teachers. Cops make infinitely too much money in this town, and that’s before considering their GROSS OVERTIME, and constant DISABILITY filings.

    Want to cut taxes? Cut the teachers salaries, but also CUT THE COPS SALARIES.

  • Here we go again, everyone doesn’t understand – but benja.

    I looked up the word sycophant, it had your picture next to it.

  • Bagel Cafe in Southold ….FOR SURE!!!!!

  • Probably get paid 75,000 to clean the toilets. Where do I sign up?

  • Floridapet25 probably also retired with a huge school pension and left the state because the taxses they are responsible for are too high.

  • How do you know some of those secretaries don’t have advanced degrees? Only in the fantasyland of teaching does an advanced degree automatically earn one a higher salary.

  • Wall street “operatives”, bankers (you can’t mean tellers, or bank employees, cause they make peanuts), and insurance companies are not paid by our tax dollars. They are paid by the free market. Teachers making 150K are not as rate as you would have us believe. And administrators are also a problem.

  • Because we are forced to pay for these unbelievable salaries. Take that responsibility away from the taxpayers and you all can do what ever to your hearts content! I don’t want to pay for any of this if it is to be the ruin of my economic stability. That is what gives me the right to high light the teachers salaries and anybody elses that I am forced to pay into. And cry out for the out of control system. The benefits?! .to them?..they are not worth my financial ruin! I am a professional also, with earnings not near what I have to pay. BS! Not right! Not what our founding fathers envisioned. They fought the system of over taxation!!! And greedy people at the expense of the majority!

  • Because we are forced to pay for these unbelievable salaries. Take that responsibility away from the taxpayers and you all can do what ever to your hearts content! I don’t want to pay for any of this if it is to be the ruin of my economic stability. That is what gives me the right to high light the teachers salaries and anybody elses that I am forced to pay into. And cry out for the out of control system. The benefits?! .to them?..they are not worth my financial ruin! I am a professional also, with earnings not near what I have to pay. BS! Not right! Not what our founding fathers envisioned. They fought the system of over taxation!!! And greedy people at the expense of the majority!

  • Not suggesting equal, but in most companies the differential isnot a one hundred thousand dollar difference. Name calling is real grown-up! How about putting your name to public. Are you afraid?

  • Not suggesting equal, but in most companies the differential isnot a one hundred thousand dollar difference. Name calling is real grown-up! How about putting your name to public. Are you afraid?

  • I think 43 of the 45 COPS make well over $100,000 per year while the average Southold resident makes around $48,000 per household. Something smells fishy…..real fishy!

  • ON day one they came for my nieghbor and I did nothing, on day two they came for my friend and I did nothing., the next day they came for me. The secret was to get one group mad at another, these were the methods used by those really responsible to deflect blame, while we need to readjust in these times, those who are fooled into savaging teachers and police as the cause of the problems should remember that when your done and the problem is still there YOUR NEXT!

  • Some of those cops supplement their “meager” salaries moonlighting as real estate agents too.

  • I need to check to be sure, but I am confident it is the Town Board that negotiates the contract for the police force, not the State of NY. It is local domain. Another bargaining process that is conducted behind closed doors with no imput from the people who pay for it all.

  • I need to check to be sure, but I am confident it is the Town Board that negotiates the contract for the police force, not the State of NY. It is local domain. Another bargaining process that is conducted behind closed doors with no imput from the people who pay for it all.

  • And the pompous belief that the only degree worthwhile is the teaching degree, all others are inferior!!

  • Everytime there is this discussion it’s the same thing “I have FIFTY CREDITS plus my masters” “I have an ADVANCED DEGREE”. BFD. There are plenty of unemployed people with advanced degress. And plenty who don’t have guaranteed jobs, pensions increased yearly on the backs of the taxpayer, and part time (180 days) jobs.

  • Bagel Buddies, Wading River. Some others on the North Fork are adequate, but most are too bready rather than dense and chewy like BB’s.

  • I objected to that also.

  • We all need to come together collectively and determine why? and how? these salaries are justified both in Riverhead and Southold. We need to organize a Group without FEAR and RETALIATION from our neighbors or Town officials just because we DEMAND answers. Let me know who is in agreement. I am considering LEGAL action in ORDER to get ANSWERS ON SALARIES!

  • I agree in order to pay for their gas guzzling brand new SUVs and Pick-ups parked at the Police Station and their Boat Slips at Strong’s Marina.

  • In my opinion I think you’re missing the boat. If your interpretation is that ‘we’ who are fed up paying for an abusive system is savaging teachers and police, then may I ask are you one who takes from the system also? It does seems to slim down to ‘those who have to give’ and ‘those who take’. We who are not in the system taking ,have suffered great financial set backs in the last several years and are fed up with those that take in this system, those who have been getting fat off of our dime. ‘Our dime’ has dwindle down to minus a quarter cent. It is not right, it is not fair. We are under or un employed and you are increasing your pot by $5,000. every year, paid by me. Many of us have to work 365 days a year, you work 185 days. We have to pay health care insurance premiums. (mine just increased $150. per month as of 2/1/11) Your health insurance is paid by me! You will retire with a pension worth more than what many of us make in annual salary with no pension plan to look forward to. Many of us will have to work till the day we die , all the while paying for you! No personal offense but we’re tired of paying for you to have the good life while we struggle. There is alot of people who are fed up giving to make you fat all the while doing with less and less just to make sure you are taken care of. Travel to other parts of this country and you will learn more of the inequities of our system. The differential of pay scale comparisions are no match to that of NY. Oh and Yes it is expensive to live in NY…have you made the corrolation Yet? Your analogy of ‘your next’… does not apply…cause if we got rid of all greedy takers we’d only have people left who play fair on the playground! It is easier to heal a wound in the very beginning, ignore it and it grows and becomes absessed. Do nothing for as long as we have…. This is now oozzing it is so out of control.

  • actually I am working toward a plan to organized interested people. Many people have been approaching me , and it looks like there are alot of us ready to investigate change. I’m in process of finding location,logistics etc. I think the time is at hand! From what I experience there are alot more people in this mind frame that you may think. We should talk! Email me!

  • could you please come out of hiding…like a coward! Tell me who you are Isn’t the expression Stand up & be a man! Be proud of who you are and your voice!! Your credibility is slim when you hide your true self! if you must call me names, at least say it to my face and let me know who I’m dealing with. grow up. I’m so OK with people having a different opinion from me! This hiding identity is creepy! :)

  • Suggest making a Facebook page ?

  • Amen Maryanne, I think the time is right for people to come out of the woodwork and protest this! My health insurance (spouse and I) is going from 830 to 960 with the next increase. If I cannot find a cheaper policy we will be uninsured. It galls me to pay health insurance for other people AND for myself!

    And the end of your story (above), when they DO retire they move to a state with LOWER TAXES. And it’s always a state where their pensions are not TAXED!

  • Could you please come out of hiding? Let your identity be revealed!!!! I have been a Social Worke since 1977, Gary Charters eluded that I was a teacher at an earlier post, so you miss interpreted his message. I should be ashamed for paying your salary and benefits? Or I should be ashamed for not paying your salary and benefits? On the teachers salary & benefits or police or disability from any one of these positions……are you able to have that home in Florida to0 , paid by us?!! Can I use it the third week of next month? Thanks for your consideration!

  • THEY are coming to get us so we better pay the tax man!

    Noone is going to get anyone. Taxpayers are out of money. We can’t pay the bag men.

  • You and pace make a lovely couple. LEts bring down everyone else bc you couldnt make it. You had the choice to become a cop or a teacher or whatever. But you didn’t. Live with it

  • I would support your cause, but I agree with Pace that we need a place where we can gather without fear of retaliation. Remember that some of these people on this REPLY Forum are Southold Town Employees who will inevitably want to protect the “Cookie Jar”. The Employees are protective about “Letting the Cat out of the Bag”. We should organize. Please set up a Facebook Account so Pace and I can become Friends with YOU!

  • Taxed, there is strength in numbers. I do not live in Southold but in Riverhead (but I work in Southold and I see the issue is the same in both towns). I realize putting a face and name to comments is intimidating when you are criticizing the people you grew up with or live next door to, but it’s time for everyone to come out of the shadows and educate them about how it is in the REAL WORLD. They think in the real world we are all 1. paid in cash and pay no taxes or 2. are corporate suits who made a million dollars a year while they made less and are now jealous of their “stipends”. I would be more than happy to “like” any Facebook page that Ms Fleishman or Mah or anyone else sets up that lets them know their salaries and benefits are STRANGLING US!

  • Taxed, there is strength in numbers. I do not live in Southold but in Riverhead (but I work in Southold and I see the issue is the same in both towns). I realize putting a face and name to comments is intimidating when you are criticizing the people you grew up with or live next door to, but it’s time for everyone to come out of the shadows and educate them about how it is in the REAL WORLD. They think in the real world we are all 1. paid in cash and pay no taxes or 2. are corporate suits who made a million dollars a year while they made less and are now jealous of their “stipends”. I would be more than happy to “like” any Facebook page that Ms Fleishman or Mah or anyone else sets up that lets them know their salaries and benefits are STRANGLING US!

  • Smt200, no one wants to bring anyone “down”. If you are a cop or teacher working for the town, you cannot relate to certain facts of life such as 1. losing money in the pension YOU funded 2. getting fired (till now anyway) 3. not having a guaranteed job for life 4. 90% of your family”s cadillac health care being paid for by someone else , among other things. You simply do not understand that we cannot afford to do this anymore. It was a ponzi scheme and it has to come to an end because we cannot fund the scheme any more. You cannot expect people who make 1/3 of what the teacher or cop makes to continue to support them.

    I know it isn’t easy to hear that, and I know you probably don’t believe it. In reality it is the public employee who is bringing the TAXPAYER down.

    I also notice that your entire post simply consists of a personal attack, so I suppose the previous posts hit a nerve with you, as they should. As you say, live with it, the gravy train is coming to a stop for lack of steam.

  • Nicely stated, Pace . My intent is to gather interested people for a meeting for discussion and strategic planning with the goal to organize for change to bring about better representation and fair and equitable practices in the public servant organization. A rally and even facebook is rather like putting the horse before the cart. A rally at this point will only serve to prevent any working together with the current opposition, with intent to change practices to address the needs of all citizens. We don’t need to be radicals (percieved from a rally) if we plan properly, change will be more effective. We need to define the problem, and develop a consensus for a plan to bring about a better way of life for all the citizens of the Town, not just the current select few. Ya know, we as a collective could all just move out and leave town! Then they’d find they would have a hard time maintaining their level of success. It is an option that I keep open (to move), though I’ve not ever been known to be one to be controled by someone else for long! I’m finding that most of the ‘sour grapes’ comments are those who do work fultime in the system and are feeling threatened at the thought of their stability being taken away. Thus begins their journey into empathy as all others not in the system live day to day. Not only namecalling but personal putdowns and many other rather child-like methods to deal with their disagreements. Can we all try to rise to the status of a grownup and sit down and discuss ways to be a better community for all? The fear for retalition is so absurd, but very real. Please children move up to maturity. Our numbers are high, and there is power in numbers, Try to remember this very important factor.

  • I have come to the conclusion, from reading threads on the Suffolk Times, and on the News Review pages, that in Southold the fear of retaliation is much stronger than in Riverhead and I understand that, and I understand why that is. I can only hope that people in both towns will stop cowering and send a message. Unfortunately we are sending messages to our friends, neighbors, and in some cases, our families, but the alternative is that when we are in our 70s, 80s and maybe 90s, we will still be working because there is no way we can retire, and we will become those folks in the mobile home park in another article on this website, who cannot afford a $50 rent hike, but have to support our public “servants” who are retired in Tennessee and North Carolina, and have been golfing since they turned 55.

  • Its a shame you see things this way. the top 1% of the wealthy are depending on you and the like to begin/continue the in fighting among the middle class so they can finally have what they want. Rich and poor. Thats it. The teachers and cops didnt bring the taxpayer down. the politicians who support tax breaks for the wealthy and corporations are the ones responsible. why aren’t you screaming for them to give up their tax breaks? Why isn’t your anger pointed at them?
    Funny, still didnt get an answer as to why you did’nt become a cop or a teacher…

  • Where is the love? Obviously not on the North Fork. This recipient of a public employee pension will now re examine where I spend my “ill gotten gains”. Merchants, vendors, contractors and restaurants will no longer have to be tainted by my business. I will voluntarily reduce my pension by 5% when the aforementioned stop under reporting their income by the same percentage.
    Not bloody likely.

  • i live in riverhead, but only since 2007. Why is there less fear in rvhd? ( not a trick or rhetorical question, just curious) .

  • We already have the rich and poor. Unfortunately the public sector is creating more poor, while they themselves move up. I’m sorry, we can’t help you to continue prospering on our backs. We can’t do it anymore, can’t afford to. We have to cut where we spend in our homes, and we have to cut taxes. You don’t know what else I protest, so don’t assume. Why did I not become a cop or teacher? Teaching did not interest me. It was not what I wanted to “be” when I grew up. What difference does it make? Why did teachers not become fireman, or cops not become scientists?

  • My own feeling, based on what I hear from people in Southold, is that they fear retaliation because they have experience it in the past. And in Southold many go back farther , are more intertwined, with the “locals” who are in positions of power. Not that there aren’t long time locals in Riverhead, I just see it more in Southold.

  • What did I say earlier? The public workers think everyone else is getting cash under the table. I am self employed and I can assure you, I get 1099s from everyone and report all my earnings. Although I am sure there are people who are paid in cash who don’t report, I don’t think the number is as high as you would like to believe, and I don’t think the amounts are as great as you would like to believe. The IRS is all over the self employed. Trust me on that one, we self employed folks know that fact well.

  • PACE YOUR CORRECT SOME OF OUR OLD TIME FAMILIES CAME FROM SOUTHOLD REMEMBER
    WE WERE ONE TOWN BACK IN THE DAY..HOWEVER AS FAR AS RETALIATION HERE IN RIVERHEAD THE PARENTS WON’T COME OUT ABOUT TEACHERS BECAUSE THEY FEAR THE KIDS WILL BE ATTACKED IN SOME WAY.. AND IT DOES HAPPEN I WAS TOLD ONCE BY A SUPERINTENDENT THAT LEFT A FEW YEARS BACK ..THAT IF I DIDN’T STOP MY MOUTH AT THE BOARD MEETINGS HE CAN SUSPEND MY SON.I TOLD HIM TRY IT AND THEY TOLD EVERYONE AT THE PODIUM AT THE NEXT MEETING.

  • SORRY CORRECTION..DUH..I TOLD EVERYONE ..SORRY GUYS

  • first , one has to start somewhere! Local long before global. Why are you so obsessed over my career path? You obviously are a ‘cop’ or teacher, and is that why you chose your profession, because of the income and benefits? Sadly, many have, and they are the not so great teachers and /or police officers , in it just for the personal gain. The teaching profession wasn’t always topsided with out of the control money drain on the taxpayer. I remember protesting and walking the picket lines in the mid 1970′s advocating for teachers pay to be more equitable as to the general public. At the time teachers salary were so low , they could not afford to live here. Talk about the extreme opposite to be true 35 years later! Balance needs to be restored because the payout has gotten out of control. Taxpayers can no longer afford to live here. I don’t understand how you can say that teachers and cops didn’t bring the taxpayer down….seriously? you believe that?

  • first , one has to start somewhere! Local long before global. Why are you so obsessed over my career path? You obviously are a ‘cop’ or teacher, and is that why you chose your profession, because of the income and benefits? Sadly, many have, and they are the not so great teachers and /or police officers , in it just for the personal gain. The teaching profession wasn’t always topsided with out of the control money drain on the taxpayer. I remember protesting and walking the picket lines in the mid 1970′s advocating for teachers pay to be more equitable as to the general public. At the time teachers salary were so low , they could not afford to live here. Talk about the extreme opposite to be true 35 years later! Balance needs to be restored because the payout has gotten out of control. Taxpayers can no longer afford to live here. I don’t understand how you can say that teachers and cops didn’t bring the taxpayer down….seriously? you believe that?

  • I also am self employed and also recieve 1099s from every place that I receive money from. I can not hide them as my income because they are sent as check and balances to the IRS. There’s nothing under the table to be hidden!

  • In response to Walter Gaipa’s letter about Oysterponds School, I am disturbed by the continual turmoil there. During Mr. Gaipa’s and his contemporaries’ tenure on the school board our child received a first class education. We had a functioning board which weighed issues and reached agreement without rancor and constant legal assistance, supported and respected the teaching staff, and hired and supported a Superintendent who shared and administered their philosophy.
    I am grateful that we no longer have a child in the school and although I have never voted against a school budget and don’t intend to, I wonder how much of it goes to support this constant fray.

  • I hear ya on that. I was referring more to retaliation by the police and buildings and zoning. I have a couple of friends in Southold harassed by the police.

  • And to pay for their cell phones while they sit at the beach and the shopping centers in their cruisers..

  • From the Washington Post:
    Underreporting Fuels Tax Shortfall
    $300 Billion a Year Goes Unpaid

    By Albert B. Crenshaw
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    Wednesday, March 30, 2005; Page E02

    Americans fail to pay more than $300 billion in taxes they owe each year, with underreporting of income by small businesses and self-employed individuals the largest single component of this “tax gap,” the Internal Revenue Service said yesterday.

    Those two categories — when employers don’t report wage information to the government — accounted for as much as $100 billion of the shortfall in 2001, the year the IRS studied. That was substantially more than the $50 billion or so in non-business income, such as dividends and capital gains, that people failed to report, and the $25 billion to $30 billion accounted for by inflated deductions, credits and the like, the study found.

    And let’s not forget those who don’t report rent.

  • WE HAVE THAT HERE ALSO

  • ANY TAXPAYER CAN FOIL..FREEDOM OF INFORMATION, CONTRACTS ALONG WITH OTHER INFORMATION RIGHT THROUGH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND ALSO THE TOWN

  • THE THING IS TEACHERS FEEL THAT JUST BECAUSE THEY HAVE DEGREES THEY DESERVE ALL THIS MONEY.JUST BECAUSE THE HAVE DEGREES DOES NOT MEAN THEY RECEIVED STRAIGHT “A”S…………A DEGREE DON’T MEAN YOUR SMARTER THAN ANYONE ELSE.
    TEACHERS SHOULD BE PAID BY MERIT ….

  • Sure, there are abuses in the civil service system, such as the ability to double salaries by overtime in the last three years, and retire on half that, which sometimes is more than base pay. Some retire on obscenely large amounts added when they cash in unused sick and vacation time. Time to negotiate an end to such practices.

    But it’s not the cops and teachers who are screwing the shrinking middle class. It’s the policy makers who have killed private pensions through tax policy, the Wall St. manipulators who made trillions of middle class wealth disappear, and right wing billionaires and talk show haters who are dividing the middle class.

    If Governor Walker of Wisconsin were serious, he would negotiate with unions, who see like the rest of us that some policies are untenable.

    Instead, he seeks to become a petty dictator who can arbitrarily cancel rights of workers to bargain collectively, a basic right called for in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

    If he and the other crazies succeed in getting a gullible public, envious of the last big group of workers who still have decent pensions and benefits, to turn on government workers in his blatant attempt to kill unions, it will only accelerate the demise of the American way of life.

    Look at the “right to work” states, which brag how they can attract industry because there are no unions, and check out their education achievement, per capita income, and quality of life.
    If you want to live in South Carolina, go ahead and move there. Maybe if they secede, you can finally be happy.

  • I would love to clean your Toilet if I was working under a Southold Town Salary and Pension Umbrella.

  • Pace you retorted to SMT that no one wants to “bring anyone down”, yet in an earlier post you stated “now were coming for them”. Your rhetoric is aggressive and suggests retaliation against teachers and cops.
    Why not fight this hard against the tax breaks for the most wealthy? Why insist on tearing at the middle class?
    “Floridapet” is my handle because my rescue cat came from a shelter in Florida. I do not have a condo, house or any intention of moving there.

  • So, your economic analysis is that previous generous pensions and benefits lavished on prior generations of eg auto and steel workers were sustainable but were killed by policy makers?
    Gee i thought it was global competetion.Did you go to the Lenin school of economics? Today, even paul krugman( rabidly liberal economist) in the Ny times, says that “shared sacrifice”
    is warranted in wisconsin. It is only monopoly power and public fear that allows for continuity.

  • There are no public sector collective bargaining right in virginia either. It is one of the most solvent , best run states. And i would guess auto workers in non union tennessee or south carolina are grateful and better off now that they have “stolen” the jobs of michigan,ohio
    etc… You would rather pay $5K more for an inferior UAW auto to preserve previous union benefits ? Or 2x what a TV costs now to keep that unskilled labor job in the US ?

  • MaryAnn Fleishman “taught” at the Dellecave Institute.
    And for those of you who do not know what that is- it’s where teachers go to get their “BS” credits that up their salaries.
    How can that be? MaryAnn? Looks like YOU are part of the problem. And you are profiting from the system. I wonder if you are paid by any of the local districts for your social worker services too?
    Irony? I love me some.

  • There are many secretaries who deserve to earn more, BUT they did not become teachers and so their salary is not as high. That’s the way the system works. I do not make as much as a doctor or a lawyer, but I may be more competent then them. I choose my path, just as your daughter did, just as those secretaries did.

  • 1% of the weathly is not the middle class.

  • Yes, Hello This is MaryAnn Fleischman …. I’m sorry I missed your name! Oh that’s right, you didn’t present yourself, just shovel shit with out taking a grownup stand!! Some call that coward! Well, I don’t have anything to hide and I am not afraid of you or people like you! Anyway, yes, I also teach at the Dellacave Institute, and have also taught at the Long Island Institute of Professional Studies. I work for a fee for service. If teachers do not want my class for service, they have the right to decline. I do not force taxpayers to increase their tax base for me. Both organizations are private owned companies. I have taught the majority of teachers on the North Fork as well as throughout the county. I would love to get into a debate to expose the move over on the pay scale situation in operation in all school districts bytaking classes. Let’s get real about the content of the classes. I teach them and I have masters +60 credits, so I know both sides now! And yes I have/do perform work for local districts when they have had complicated advanced problem level students and families in crisis. I am an expert in helping people in crisis. When I am called upon to work as a school consultant, again, I am hired for fee for service. I am not an emploee making $100,000. I do not get benefits, pensions, sick accumulations, etc. I work for a family at a time, because the district is unable to help a particular student for a variety of reasons. Is this ironic? I don’t believe so! Are you trying to insinuate otherwise? My consultant fee at any district may be a teardrop in the ocean of any district’s total budget, most unlike the out of control salary scale and benefit packages for the teachers, but again if you are attempting to discredit me personnaly, I’d appreciate your openess. Please reveal your identity before you try to discredit me the next time! :) I have nothing to be ashamed of and do not have to hide , why do you?

  • you profile reveals you are “Floridapet25″ disguising as a guest now! reveal youself please, no need to be afraid of us!!

  • Mud-slinging aside, vg nassau and suffolk real estate taxes ( 2/3 of which is for schools) equate to over 8% of household income, versus 3% nationwide….. NYS income tax rate is also among the highest…so relief is not going to come from the state. Taxing the NY rich is not going to close the gap. Maybe you are suggesting that all other states should increase teacher pay and taxes commensurately?

  • Mud-slinging aside, vg nassau and suffolk real estate taxes ( 2/3 of which is for schools) equate to over 8% of household income, versus 3% nationwide….. NYS income tax rate is also among the highest…so relief is not going to come from the state. Taxing the NY rich is not going to close the gap. Maybe you are suggesting that all other states should increase teacher pay and taxes commensurately?

  • Your profile shows you are Floridapet25, lurking around again , what do you have to hide so bad?! Show your identity!