Calverton: Black history month at Riley

02/15/2011 9:00 AM |

Winter recess for Riley Avenue Elementary School (and the entire district) is Feb. 21-25. I hope you get to go somewhere where the temperature is over 32 degrees.

February is Black History Month and Riley is continuing to recognize the many achievements of both local and national African-American heroes. The fourth-grade students will be sharing facts and quotations with the entire school and all the students will receive materials about these wonderful, important people.

I had the best time at the Chinese New Year celebration held at Riley last week. Mrs. Dorman and Mrs. Kruger have once again perfectly brought together the children and the songs, the ribbon dance and the spectacular parade of dragons, which was made even more special as principal David Enos participated with his usual humor. Mrs. Haupt’s artistic talents are amazing. The school looks so festive with the dragons and the mitten pictures outside the gym. Thanks again for the invite, I wouldn’t have missed it for the world.

For those of you who shop at Stop and Shop and have a Stop and Shop points card, you can now help Riley earn money from your purchases. Call 1-877-275-2758 or visit stopandshop.com/aplus to learn more about this program. Do consider participating, it’s so easy.

A belated happy birthday to Wendy Finter on Feb. 9; Marilyn Milanack, Feb. 11; and Marcia Sidik, Feb. 12. Hope you each had a perfect day.

Happy birthday to Jim Niewadomski, who celebrates today, Thursday, Feb. 17, from your mom and dad, all your family and friends, and your girlfriend, Laura. We hope your day is great. Birthday wishes are also sent to Laura Randall (Jimmy’s girlfriend) who celebrates on Feb. 20, from all your family and friends, and, of course, Jimmy. Best wishes to you both for special days together.

The warmer weather has been so nice. Now all we have to do is get rid of that awful, dark-colored snow on the sides of the road and all will be better.

Here’s an idea for those who are adventurous: I saw some maple trees with icicles hanging off their branches last week, which means the sap is running and maple-syrup-making time is here. We made syrup when my children were small. You can do it, too. Just remember, it takes a lot of sap to make a little syrup. Search the Internet to learn how.

That’s all for this week. Be safe, enjoy the warm weather and I shall talk to you all next week. Take care, bye.

772 Comment

  • Carole Geiss may have pulled a fly out of a horse’s third eyelid,
    but she is not going to pull the wool over my eyes.

    Why did Mrs. Geiss neglect to mention how she feels about NFAWL? Why did Mrs. Geiss neglect to mention that she is fighting for municipal employees to operate the animal shelter?

    If Mrs. Geiss thinks she is only “helping the government do its job”, Southold Town government should make it clear to her that it doesn’t need any more of her “help”.

  • Both letters about Go Green Sanitation are unconscionable. Greenwash is neither environmental nor economical. Go Green should be called go red.

    The U.S. currently recycles 32.5 percent of its waste, compared with about five percent in 1970. While Single Stream Recycling (SSR) is growing in popularity, mixing compostables and recyclables with garbage is not the answer to waste disposal.

    In the 1980′s, landfilling was the most common method of waste disposal, people in the United States were generating about four pounds of trash per person per day. In New York State 48,000 tons of waste was being generated every day. How much waste are Go-Green customers in Southold Town currently generating daily? Would you want to sort thru it?

    If you honestly don’t understand why we need to recycle, read Too Good To Throw Away — Recycling’s Proven Record by the Natural Resources Defense Council http://www.nrdc.org/cities/recycling/recyc/recyinx.asp

    and see http://www.nrdc.org/recycling/default.asp

  • Copertino, you hit the nail right on the head. The dummy left will wake up only when it is too late.
    Obama cant decide whose side he is on. His leftist and moslem ties conflict with the job that he is suppose to be doing. That is protecting this country.

  • I can’t wait for this November, when Benja runs for and wins a seat on the town board. His significant and highly detailed knowledge of literally every aspect of town government, combined with his unique ability to see through the fog of government and consistently propose clear, concise, and practical resolutions to most every problem we face, will be a welcome change.

    Schwartz in 2011 !!!

  • Re Josh ‘s defense of teachers
    ” Doctors lawyers architects earn salaries commensurate with their lengthy educations…why not teachers”…. Drs lawyers architets… engineers accountants….are not protected by unions and are subject to the discipline of commercial marketplace. There is no “tenure” . Non discrimination laws are good enough for drs lawyers, et al, why not teachers?
    Teachers are paid by taxpayers. LI re tax corresponds to 8% of avg household income vs 3% natonwide. 2/3 is for schools. While I dont think anyone is proposing anything as drastic as
    a $50,000 max, I think taxpayers are pleading for restraint, and for teachers , very well paid by US standards , to share some of the pain.

  • Keep watching Beck and Fox News. Keep calling everyone leftist. Keep bashing President Obama; blame him for everything that has happened in this country for the last 40 years. Keep spewing your dire predictions. It keeps it simple for the simple minded.

  • Kudos to Josh for his comments regarding teachers – not sure if he is one.

    It’s funny how, in bad times, the public comes out as anti-public employee. It’s also funny how people forget people in the public sector live on Long Island, in their neighborhoods.

    Public employees are ALSO fed up with rising LIPA and Cablevision rates, public employees ALSO have to pay high property taxes, public employees are upset about the threat of paying almost $4.00 for a gallon of gasoline.

    Public employees are also wondering where they’re going to get money to pay for their children’s college costs in a few years.

    Public employees aren’t the problem. Wall Street crashed the economy and, subsequently, got a tax cut and bonuses. What bonuses do public employees receive? Oh yeah, bashing from their neighbors.

  • Kudos to Josh for his comments regarding teachers – not sure if he is one.

    It’s funny how, in bad times, the public comes out as anti-public employee. It’s also funny how people forget people in the public sector live on Long Island, in their neighborhoods.

    Public employees are ALSO fed up with rising LIPA and Cablevision rates, public employees ALSO have to pay high property taxes, public employees are upset about the threat of paying almost $4.00 for a gallon of gasoline.

    Public employees are also wondering where they’re going to get money to pay for their children’s college costs in a few years.

    Public employees aren’t the problem. Wall Street crashed the economy and, subsequently, got a tax cut and bonuses. What bonuses do public employees receive? Oh yeah, bashing from their neighbors.

  • I live in Southold and I commute everday to work for a large coporation. I have a MBA Degree and I still make almost half of the salary as the $120,000 Southold Police salaries and even less than that of Southold Teachers salaries. It is funny that all my immediate neighbors either work for the Public Sector or are retired from it and living on their $80,000 PER YEAR pensions. I think it is strange that scenerio is actually real. I guess I am not doing to bad living next these Public Service “Big Shots”. Kudos to me.

  • Maybe you should be a cop – if you can pass the psych test.

  • To Ed Boyd,

    Egypt is of vital strategic importance to our Middle East policy. Compared to the billions we’ve given Israel and Egypt over the years, $150 million is chickenfeed. If it’ll do the least bit of good at this crossroad, so be it.

    That’s what you’re missing.

  • Hey Benja, I think you should read this part again. Also, I don’t think it is personally NFAWL she has an issue with, it’s the paperwork.

    Councilman Orlando, in an e-mail dated Feb. 3, asked me, “Can you let the people know that might be interested in bidding? Thanks, Vinny.”
    I did that. Was that collusion? Absolutely not! Did Mr. Orlando do anything wrong? No. Did I do anything wrong? No.
    Did anyone, especially the reporter, ask me my side of the issue? No. In a letter delivered personally to the Town Clerk’s office, I informed the Town Board, town attorney and clerk of my action and heard from no one.
    When did helping the government do its job become a crime?
    Are apologies due me?
    You bet.
    Carole Geiss

  • Re: On The Right Track-Its a disgrace the MTA cut service to the East End. Mr Romaine has it right. A song was written dedicated to people needing to keep taking a stand about this issue. Check it out when you get a chance. http://www.reverbnation.com/play_now/song_7140490

  • To Ms. Sanders,

    an e-mail dated Feb. 3, asked me, “Can you let the people know that might be interested in bidding? Thanks, Vinny.”

    That would make me think I could if I was her. No??

  • Yes, Josh, I am not a teacher and my job requires all that and more. Plus I fund my own pension and pay my own health care.

  • Obama’s apporval rating is 37%, that means that 63% disapprove of his job performance. You continually alibi for him. Are you a racist? Is that why you defend him? Will you follow him on the road of destruction that he is leading this country down. Did you vote for him simply because he is 1/2 black? If so are you just plain stupid?

  • Benja made some good statements at the Tuesday Town Board meeting regarding openness in government, but he does not seem to feel the same about NFAWL.

    Perhaps he is not aware that in each successive contract with the Town requirements have been reduced and reward increased. Mr. Horton raised their reward $10,000 per year and took on the utility costs worth another $9,000.

    Supervisor Russell reduced their reporting requirements and gave an increase. We don’t know how many animals are in the shelter nor how many have been euthanized. Yes they euthanize animals, but don’t report that any longer.

    Their financial reports do not segregate their activities under the contract from their work as a charity. Without these data the Town cannot fulfill its responsibility to supervise the operation, nor can it know the true cost of service to the dogs.

    Cats are NFAWL’s charitable work.

    Why do they insist on reporting less if they are not ashamed of the truth? Their Newsletter is always full of self-praising stories.

  • The bad times make people think and compare. Why should some, public employees, be guaranteed their retirement income, when others with 401k’s/403b’s have to suffer the vagaries of the stock and bond market? Why, when the pension system makes bad assumptions or bad investments, should those citizens who suffer the poor market returns have to pay more taxes to make up the shortage? That is a double hit.

    History shows that public education began when most people were farmers. Children were needed on the farm during summer and harvest time. That is why teachers have summers off. Not because teachers need relief more than the rest of us. Time to work a full year (250 for the rest of us) for the year’s pay for only 180 days.

    Look at your school parking lot kinda empty after 2:30 isn’t it. Apparently all the teachers staying after hours don’t drive. And, many of those who do want extra pay–detention, after-care, coaching, clubs, etc.

    University professors are expected to write for publication, develop new curriculum, and/or do research in the summer, don’t get paid for each credit of additional study or continuing education, and generally get paid less. Don’t look to them for help.

  • Your allegiance to Obama will help destroy this country. Maybe you should watch Beck with an open mind. Dire predictions? Yesterday a muslim terrorist was caught with plans and chemicals to destroy American landmarks. Do you care more about race then you do your own country? You achieved the status and comfort that you have here in the USA.

  • You statement “Ssupervisor R ussell reduced their reporting requirements” is incorrect. The operator stopped sending the Town Board monthly reports and I met with them to urge them to continue sending reports to the Board. They refused because it was not required by the contract. The new contract does require such reporting to the Town.

  • That shelter belongs to and is paid for by TAXPAYERS. I appreciate what the NFAWL does, however they must be held accountable for every aspect of their operation this TAXPAYER owned facility. They must operate according to what WE want them to do, and if they do not like it, let them bid on operating some other animal shelter. Allow me to suggest Riverhead.

  • Here and in other anonymous and private forums, After_the_TRUTH spews lies, nonsense, personal attacks and demands for openness. How ironic that After_the_TRUTH uses a pseudonym to conceal his or her or his and her identity(s).

    After_the_TRUTH is very good at confusing issues, but it is clear that After_the_TRUTH is not telling the WHOLE TRUTH.

  • Who negotiated the contract for 2008 to 2011? Were reporting requirements changed in negotiation? Why? Does this affect the collection of licensing fees owed to the Town?

  • It doesn’t take “allegiance” to Obama to know that no mind is required to be a Beckerhead. Check out glennbeckreview.com or mediamatters.com for Beck’s lies. What does acknowledging that Beck is a liar have to do with “you care more about race th[e]n [sic] you do your own country?” Beck has said rivers of blood will flow in the streets, he’s predicting apocalypse and he is an end times lunatic. That is what the other poster was referring to I’m sure. If Beck (and you) had his way we’d see the Muslim’s marching to the ovens this time.

  • Ok, so they were sending in monthly reports (even though not required to by contract) and stopped? According to you that would be a correct statement? True? Then you went to them and urged them to keep sending in reports and they would not? Then don’t you think something may be wrong with that? If you have nothing to hide, then why not send them to keep peace if nothing else. I don’t think the issue really is are cages clean and water to drink, food etc, it’s the paperwork that is not being provided to really see the internal of the operation and costs. what do you think?

  • Ok, so they were sending in monthly reports (even though not required to by contract) and stopped? According to you that would be a correct statement? True? Then you went to them and urged them to keep sending in reports and they would not? Then don’t you think something may be wrong with that? If you have nothing to hide, then why not send them to keep peace if nothing else. I don’t think the issue really is are cages clean and water to drink, food etc, it’s the paperwork that is not being provided to really see the internal of the operation and costs. what do you think?

  • Ok, so they were sending in monthly reports (even though not required to by contract) and stopped? According to you that would be a correct statement? True? Then you went to them and urged them to keep sending in reports and they would not? Then don’t you think something may be wrong with that? If you have nothing to hide, then why not send them to keep peace if nothing else. I don’t think the issue really is are cages clean and water to drink, food etc, it’s the paperwork that is not being provided to really see the internal of the operation and costs. what do you think?

  • DWI’s for the win

  • Shmuck, have you heard of todays arrest of a muslim student that is planning the bombings of US sights? Only cowards are afraid to face the possibilities that Islam wants to destroy us and Obama hasnt a clue how to protect us from the radical muslims.

  • Shmuck, have you heard of todays arrest of a muslim student that is planning the bombings of US sights? Only cowards are afraid to face the possibilities that Islam wants to destroy us and Obama hasnt a clue how to protect us from the radical muslims.

  • To Lovemyhorseman,

    >> That would make me think I could if I was her. No??

    Who are you??

    A single Town Board member has no right to authorize anyone to act on behalf of Southold Town. Mrs. Geiss had no right to present herself as a representative of Southold Town.

  • To Lovemyhorseman,

    >> That would make me think I could if I was her. No??

    Who are you??

    A single Town Board member has no right to authorize anyone to act on behalf of Southold Town. Mrs. Geiss had no right to present herself as a representative of Southold Town.

  • Paperwork is only important if you understand the meanings of the words and numbers. The paperwork of NFAWL is in order. Last year, Southold Town Board issued a NOTICE OF TERMINATION claiming NFAWL was delinquent in required reports. That NOTICE was withdrawn because NFAWL was not delinquent in required reports. This year the Town Board is negotiating for a new contract that will require more reports. NFAWL will have to charge more to the Town to pay for producing those extra reports. Will it be worth the additional taxes?

    The issue here is not money, it is not the quality of animal care, it is abuse of power. Why is the Town Board interfering with the operation of a not-for-profit corporation who is by all reputable accounts serving the Town well? Doesn’t the Town Board have enough to do? The public interest would be better served if Southold Town Board improved its own reporting to the public. And, the public interest would be better served if Southold Town Board improved the reporting of Town Departments such as Police, Highway, etc.

  • Paperwork is only important if you understand the meanings of the words and numbers. The paperwork of NFAWL is in order. Last year, Southold Town Board issued a NOTICE OF TERMINATION claiming NFAWL was delinquent in required reports. That NOTICE was withdrawn because NFAWL was not delinquent in required reports. This year the Town Board is negotiating for a new contract that will require more reports. NFAWL will have to charge more to the Town to pay for producing those extra reports. Will it be worth the additional taxes?

    The issue here is not money, it is not the quality of animal care, it is abuse of power. Why is the Town Board interfering with the operation of a not-for-profit corporation who is by all reputable accounts serving the Town well? Doesn’t the Town Board have enough to do? The public interest would be better served if Southold Town Board improved its own reporting to the public. And, the public interest would be better served if Southold Town Board improved the reporting of Town Departments such as Police, Highway, etc.

  • I’d like to know what school parking lot is empty at 2:30? Our elementary school day is completed at 3:30. Some teachers BEGIN THEIR DAY at 6:30 in the morning and must pursue their own graduate education at classes that begin at 4:00.

    Yes, those that stay after to do extra things DO GET paid for their time in addition to their base salary. Who works for free?

    Again, we chose to go into the public sector, yes – more than likely – for the benefits. Wall Street crashed the economy, got a tax break and began handing out bonuses again, and now the public sector workers are supposed to come to the rescue? Share some of the bonuses that public employees don’t get, then we’ll talk.

  • And this involves Obama, how? And this makes Beck less of a liar how?

  • LIke many public employees, you seem to equate non public employee with “Wall Street”. Most of us, especially out here, don’t work for Wall Street. Most of us are self employed, have no guaranteed job, guaranteed pension, guaranteed raises, and minimal health insurance costs.

  • LIke many public employees, you seem to equate non public employee with “Wall Street”. Most of us, especially out here, don’t work for Wall Street. Most of us are self employed, have no guaranteed job, guaranteed pension, guaranteed raises, and minimal health insurance costs.

  • Not that Wall Street are good guys, but , banks have paid back $235 of the $245 B borrowed under tarp. The biggest chunk of TARP outstanding? ….auto companies,,,which were dragged down by Wall street? …no i think it was the unions that did them in…. i think the autoworkers claimed that they werent the problem either… (i think the unions claimed that it was the japanese autoworkers). One more thing , regarding tax cuts…. pretty sure ( no i am certain) that middle class tax cuts included in the bush tax were larger than those i the middle class.
    Well, you might consider deviating from the ” bash the rich” script…. because there aren’t too many of those rich wall streeet types on the northfork to bash.

  • Not that Wall Street are good guys, but , banks have paid back $235 of the $245 B borrowed under tarp. The biggest chunk of TARP outstanding? ….auto companies,,,which were dragged down by Wall street? …no i think it was the unions that did them in…. i think the autoworkers claimed that they werent the problem either… (i think the unions claimed that it was the japanese autoworkers). One more thing , regarding tax cuts…. pretty sure ( no i am certain) that middle class tax cuts included in the bush tax were larger than those i the middle class.
    Well, you might consider deviating from the ” bash the rich” script…. because there aren’t too many of those rich wall streeet types on the northfork to bash.

  • middle class tax cuts were larger than those for those over $250K

  • Benja seems to always ask who people are on this site when they do not use their names.
    Hey, welcome to the InterWebz pal. We don’t use names here if we don’t want to, and there’s N-O-T-H-I-N-G you can do about it.

    Have an average day.

  • Benja,

    I am a child of God, a loving Daughter, Sister, Wife, Mom, animal lover, friend and a overtaxed, underpaid Southold Town resident.

    Maybe a single Town Board member has no right to authorize anyone to act on behalf of Southold Town, HOWEVER, ONE DID (and denied it). Mrs. Geiss did not appear to me as if she represented the Town Board she merely was telling people rfp were out and suggested they look into it, if interested. I did hear plenty of peeps at the meeting saving they were speaking for all of the tax payers in Southold Town. I don’t recall giving them my vote, permission, say so or what ever you want to call it so they had no right to represent me either. tit for tat??

  • Dear Benja,

    You choose to use your name, but only post cynical opinions, supposition, perceptions, accusations, etc.

    I choose not to use my name, but I provide verifiable facts. Look up the records, it will take time and energy, but will the energy spent will provide illumination.

    That is the real irony.

    The truth can be painful and distressing, that is why people prefer belief and fantasy.

    Think about it.

  • For those people who complain about not having the same benefits as a private sector employee that public employees have, why don’t you form or join a union and demand that your employees provide pensions, raises, and health care rather than try to take it away from others? Oh, that’s right-those corporations so many of the right wing love to praise don’t provide them. It’s profits before people, which is why the US is close to, or at the bottom of, the list of developed countries when it comes to things like infant mortality, life expectancy, literacy, violent crime rate,and the number of people incarcerated.

  • you sound like an old show the laugh in….. i want to truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth…..and that’s the truth….raspberry

  • you sound like an old show the laugh in….. i want to truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth…..and that’s the truth….raspberry

  • Why do the Public Service workers make so much more than the Private Sector workers? Unions will soon be abolished because there are so many workers that are not supported by the comfort of a Union. Further, States are catching on to the fact that the salaries and pensions on State Union workers are collapsing there budgets and out of control. I can’t wait until this movement spreads here from Wisconsin. The movements are spreading across the Country. I literally can’t wait to see this happen!

  • Wrong D Scanlon, many of us are self employed or own a small business. We don’t work for those “corporations”.

  • I can’t wait either! Watch out Mattituck-Cutchogue and Riverhead school districts!

  • If your a cop, go arrest some drunken driver’s in Greenport. By the way, my Inspection Tag on my car is current. I just had my oil changed as well.

  • Is it harder than the real estate tests that so many cops take to supplement their meagar incomes?

  • After_the_TRUTH I don’t need to look up records. I was there.
    I don’t make false accusations. And I am not out to get anybody.
    Your facts are false. The truth is that Southold Town Board issued a frivolous Notice of Termination last year and a frivolous RFP this year.

  • I will have a great day because I am not afraid to sign my posts

  • Just because you were there does not mean you know the facts. I was there and heard Mr. O deny that he knew anything about a letter and now look what happened. Just saying.

  • Teacher’s pay into their pensions and pay into their health benefits.

  • They pay INTO, but the amount is minuscule.

  • So why do you have to hide? What are you afraid of? If you believe truly in what you say, then stand up and reveal yourself. You wouldn’t have to hide and you could begin to converse like an adult! Maybe if people were required to be who they are , up-front and exposed, it would lend to a more grown-up path to healthy discussion amoung adults, rather that childish digs and namecalling and etc, etc. What are you afraid of? I have asked this of the people lurking in the shadow of secrecy, but none of you have ever given an answer. Time to come out from behind the door!

  • Taxed to Death, if you saw the analysis in today’s New York Times you’d see that, on average, public sector empl0yees with college degrees make less than private sector employees. What I don’t understand, though, is why so many of us in the same boat, whether public or private sector employees, are attacking each other. Are we, the middle class, in a race to lower our benefits and standard of living even more? The union in Wisconsin already agreed to the governor’s salary demands. He wants to destroy the unions, though. Think back 100 years ago, before there was a minimum wage, child labor laws, a 40 hour work week, job safety regulations, and yes, pensions and health benefits. Those were all, across the board, brought about by unions. What kind of workplace do we want our children to work in one day?

    So many on the right consider Reagan a hero, yet don’t want the very wealthy to pay the same tax rates they did during his administration. They say that to call for the rich to pay their fair share is class warfare, or socialist, or communist (and no, the two are not the same.) Yet, the wealthy already have tax breaks others don’t get. The tax rate on dividend income is lower than earned income. Social security tax is only paid on the first $102,000 made. So, the teacher, or cop, or EMS, or private sector nurse, secretary, or painter, is paying that tax on all of their income, while the very rich, like those making over $1,000,000, are only paying that tax on 10% of their income. Why is it class warfare, or communism at work, to demand that every worker, public or private, be entitled to basic health care, a decent wage, and a pension so they can retire with some dignity? If that means A Rod, Mayor Bloomberg, Donald Trump, Lindsay Lohan, or any other of the very rich have to pay the same tax rates they did under Reagan, so be it.

  • Trust me no body forgets they are paying for their neighbors!! Would I be worried if I make $125,000 a year and had time to moonlight if I wanted; if cable, LIPA, property taxes, college costs, etc, etc, etc, were going up? Gee from where the working poor stand….they make on average less than half of that income already moonlighting and no more hours in the day to look for any more work. Many 2 income working families are working so much the parents don’t see each other except in passing. Personally my health care company notified me 2/9/11 that my monthly premium was now $500. per month effective 2/1/11. Then by chance I got sick on 2/20/11 went to the clinic to be told I now have a $2,000 annual deductable. Took the perscription to the pharmacy and was told I no longer have drug coverage. As a teacher do you pay $500 per month for an individual premium ? I know the answer is NO! I have no idea how to pay the increase cause I’m already robbing Peter to pay Paul! I will have to figure out where I can come up with an extra $150 per month or I problably will do with out health care.. Don’t talk to me about your sorry lot in life with all these exenses that you have that are going up. I would be gloating thru if my annual was , hell, even if it was $90,000!! My expenditures are the same as yours, wanna trade checking accounts for one month? Wall Street caused a problem for everyone. But it has only been public servants, Teachers and Police that have “suffered ” thru the Wall Street debockle by getting consistent $4,000 – $5,000 raises every year and on-going. Everyone else has either downsized with mandatory pay decreases or lost their employment. Don’t tell me you have sufferred because me, and thousands more like me, will want to laugh you down from your unrealistic, petty, greedy highhorse ! Why are our taxes rising? Because of you! We could live with the slight increases from the public servant sector, including the police, the majority of the problem is the school district expenditures and it is not the suppliy category . It is the out of control costs of your salaries. We are tired of it. We are sick of footing your life. We were asleep for a while, but the chickens have all come home to rooste and by GOD I hope there will soon be change. Else I’m ready to sell and move, as are many to come, and many who have already. And we’ll leave you to pay into for yourself as perpetuation of your own wealth. I wonder how long that momentum will keep you in the highlife!

  • you must be about 14 years old! am I right? That is most childish!

  • Maybe not, but Republicans, Tea Party members, and other assorted members of the right support policies which favor corporations over the middle class, including those of the middle class who are self employed or small business owners. Why vote for corporate interests over your own?

  • I am thinking about relocation off Long Island and I do not even have a job opportunity. I just want to sell my home and relocate asap! The sooner I leave, the sooner I save from paying these ridiculous Taxes and Fee’s.

    Someone on these blogs on this Website needs to take a stand and get all of us disatisfied citizens together to demand an answer from our Towns. Why do Cops make 4120,000 and Teachers 140,000 AND Administrators $190,000? These salaries are unheard of every else in the country!!!!!

  • How do you figure? The Bush tax cuts created six brackets: 10%, 15%, 25%, 28%, 33%, and 36%. If the cuts had expired and rates had gone back to what they were set at prior to the cuts, there would have been five brackets: 15%, 28%, 31%, 36%, and 39.6%. Those in the highest tax bracket got the biggest tax cut: 3.6% (from 39.6% to 36%), while the middle class got a 3 point cut. Maybe in terms of actual dollars saved more went to the middle class, but that would be only because it’s a bigger percentage of the population. In terms of actual tax rates, the top bracket got a larger cut than the middle. Why did they deserve more?

  • Your points are valid although the wages, benefits, and unions have deteriorated our State Budget and raised taxes for the non-public working middle class citizen. Everyone one of my Southold neighbors is a product of the public system and living very comfortably, while I toil in a private sector job with my frozen salary and 401K. It really upsets me when I talk to my retired “public System” neighbor states that they have nothing to worry about with making $10,000 per month with there pension. I am busting my A** just to survive here!

  • Gdgdhs is an idiot….I know this person

  • Gee, since Obama has kept so many of Bush’s security policies in place, just what is it he’s doing that’s jepardizing security? The potential terrorist was caught, wasn’t he? That’s more than can be said of Bush and bin Ladin, or Bush and the madmen of 9/11. And wasn’t it the right who as far back as the Clinton presidency, when he spoke about bin Ladin, chanted, “No bombs for Monica?” And those guys who attacked the WTC the first time, during Clinton’s presidency, were caught and tried.

  • I work for free…. but I’ just a professional Social Worker, bleeding heart liberal, hippie do-gooder! I work for free because more and more people in need of good mental health service can not afford to pay me and I can not (and will not) ethically turn them away. It is what it is. I don’t look for medals and I don’t shout from the rooftops what a wondeful worker I am …because I am not the only good worker in the world. Most of us are good, kind caring workers no matter what our chosen field! Yes, take notice: CHOSEN field of employment! I am not interested in being a police officer or a Town Supervisor, or a day care worker etc., etc., …we are all important!
    Please see above about discussion regards to Wall Street. I would like to talk to you about the graduate education programs, they vary dramatically, as you know also! I know that if I was making say a $116,369 annual base salary with a great pension and health care for me and my family, I would do and say anything to protect my turf. It is human nature. I understand that and hold no one personally to fault. But if someone were to raise my consciousness to understand that my gain is disproportionate and actually harmfull to my fellow American, I may think twice to bring balance to the world! I may, I may not! Some will , some won’t….wax on, wax off!

  • Why do Southold Cops make so much? Here is a sample list of Chicago’s Cook County where the crime rate is astronomical with Drugs, Murder, Prostitution, and Suicide.

    Southold Police Officer’s make $120,000 per year.

    The Weekly Blotter Report:

    DWI
    Expired Registration
    Expired Inspection
    Speeding
    Domestic Abuse
    Drugs (Greenport)

    What is wrong with this picture?

    ADAMS, TANDA D Admin Assistant II Police Department $49,440.00 1995-03-07
    AGUIRRE, ANTHONY County Police Officer Police Department $69,940.00 1989-06-26
    ALBRIGHT, THOMAS W County Police Officer Police Department $69,940.00 1995-12-04
    ALEJANDRO JR, ANTONIO County Police Officer Police Department $76,450.00 1978-08-01
    ALFORD, CYNTHIA D Admin Assistant III Police Department $54,288.00 1995-03-07
    ALLEN, MICHELLE Admin Assistant II Police Department $49,440.00 1994-08-01
    ALMEIDA, ROBERT C County Police Officer Police Department $73,122.00 1994-01-10
    ALVARADO, ARTURO J County Police Officer Police Department $79,928.00 1981-06-01
    ALVARADO, RICHARD A County Police Lieutenant Police Department $94,436.00 1978-06-01
    AMEGATCHER, KAREN E County Police Officer Police Department $73,122.00 1994-02-22
    ANDERSON, GLORIA L County Police Officer Police Department $73,122.00 1990-05-16
    ANTHONY, DARRYL E County Police Officer Police Department $66,897.00 1991-06-26
    ANTON, MICHAEL P Police Commander Police Department $101,631.00 1989-06-01
    ARRIGO, ROBERT R County Police Officer Police Department $73,122.00 1989-12-02
    ARVELO, FELIX County Police Officer Police Department $73,122.00 1991-08-12
    ASHLEY, DARRYL W County Police Officer Police Department $73,122.00 1993-10-04
    ASHLEY, SHELIA L County Police Officer Police Department $76,450.00 1988-06-16
    AUSTIN, BEVERLY County Police Officer Police Department $69,940.00 1995-09-05
    BACKSHIS, JOHN N County Police Officer Police Department $76,450.00 1980-07-01
    BADON, KEVIN D County Police Officer Police Department $69,940.00 1998-06-15
    BAE, JAE M. County Police Officer Police Department $66,897.00 2001-03-19
    BAEZ, DAVID County Police Officer Police Department $66,897.00 2000-04-10
    BAKER, ERIK Telecommunicator-Sheriff Police Department $48,065.00 2006-04-17
    BAKER, KERI Telecommunicator-Sheriff Police Department $50,440.00 2003-08-24
    BARBER, DAVID J County Police Officer Police Department $73,122.00 1980-12-15
    BARKSDALE, EDWARD D County Police Officer Police Department $69,940.00 1995-08-07
    BARLOGA, JOHN D County Police Officer Police Department $69,940.00 1995-06-12
    BARNES, MICHAEL J County Police Officer Police Department $79,928.00 1981-03-02
    BARNES, WANDA R County Police Officer Police Department $73,122.00 1990-03-06
    BARRINS, ROBERT G County Police Officer Police Department $76,450.00 1983-10-17
    BATTAGLIA, JEFFREY J County Police Officer Police Department $76,450.00 1988-03-16
    BEACHEM, DON W County Police Officer Police Department $79,928.00 1980-09-16
    BEAN, TIMOTHY L County Police Officer Police Department $76,450.00 1988-05-02
    BECKER, LAURA Traffic Crossing Guards Police Department $4,200.00 1990-10-25
    BECKER, WILLIAM J. Traffic Crossing Guards Police Department $4,200.00 2005-08-30
    BEHAN, BRENDAN P County Police Officer Police Department $69,940.00 1994-12-21
    BELLUOMINI, CATHERINE Traffic Crossing Guards Police Department $333.00 2001-04-09
    BERG, MARY Traffic Crossing Guards Police Department $4,200.00 1993-01-19
    BERG, TERRY A. Electrical Mechanic Police Department $81,952.00 2007-07-09
    BERGEL, TIMOTHY J. Telecommunicator-Sheriff Police Department $45,924.00 2006-10-30
    BERKERY, ROBERT F County Police Officer Police Department $81,727.00 1978-09-16
    BERNARD, DARYL A County Police Sergeant Police Department $83,884.00 1983-10-05
    BERTUCCI, CHRISTINE B. Admin Assistant II Police Department $46,245.00 2004-05-03
    BEVILLE, DEAN R Police Commander Police Department $101,631.00 1988-07-08
    BIALCZAK, STEVEN J County Police Officer Police Department $66,897.00 2000-04-10
    BIOCIC, REGINA E County Police Officer Police Department $73,122.00 1992-07-20
    BIRCH, MICHAEL E County Police Officer Police Department $76,450.00 1988-07-18
    BLAINO, JUANITA T County Police Officer Police Department $61,260.00 1996-03-11
    BLAIR V, JOHN H County Police Lieutenant Police Department $94,436.00 1994-03-08
    BLANCHARD, KELVIN T County Police Officer Police Department $69,940.00 1995-09-05
    BLESS, ROBERT County Police Officer Police Department $69,940.00 1996-06-03
    BLUE, ANDRE C County Police Officer Police Department $73,122.00 1992-01-27
    BOFFA, VINCENT D County Police Officer Police Department $76,450.00 1985-01-02
    BOGGIA, DOMINIC J County Police Officer Police Department $76,450.00 1988-12-05
    BOGMENKO, MICHAEL G County Police Officer Police Department $79,928.00 1977-09-01
    BOLEK, JAMES R County Police Officer Police Department $69,940.00 1995-12-04
    BONAREK, BRIAN D County Police Officer Police Department $69,940.00 1996-06-10
    BONILLA, SAMINA Telecommunicator-Sheriff Police Department $50,440.00 2004-07-26
    BOROSZ, DANIEL Data Entry Operator III Police Department $33,226.00 2008-06-09
    BOUBOUREKAS, PETER N County Police Officer Police Department $73,122.00 1993-03-22
    BOWMAN, ANTHONY M County Police Officer Police Department $66,897.00 1991-04-22
    BOYD, ANTWANN N County Police Officer Police Department $73,122.00 1992-02-03
    BOYETTE, LATONYA D Telecommunicator-Sheriff Police Department $53,970.00 1995-04-03
    BOYLE, CHRISTOPHER A County Police Officer Police Department $69,940.00 1995-06-12
    BRADFIELD, MARCUS E County Police Officer Police Department $73,122.00 1994-03-28
    BRADLEY, FOSTER H County Police Officer Police Department $69,940.00 1995-02-14
    BRAGLIA, FREDERICK T County Police Sergeant Police Department $69,183.00 1978-08-21
    BRAUN, JOHN J Telecommunicator-Sheriff Police Department $54,484.00 1993-10-04
    BROADWAY, JASON M County Police Officer Police Department $69,940.00 1994-08-01
    BRODIE, ALEXANDER L County Police Officer Police Department $73,122.00 1989-03-06
    BROSNAN, PATRICK J County Police Officer Police Department $69,940.00 1998-02-17
    BROWN, KIMBERLY A County Police Officer Police Department $69,940.00 1995-12-04
    BROWN, LATRICE K. Telecommunicator-Sheriff Police Department $41,762.00 2008-10-27
    BROWN, MATTHEW J County Police Officer Police Department $69,940.00 1999-03-02
    BROWN, TYRA County Police Officer Police Department $76,450.00 1988-05-02

  • Why do Southold Cops make so much? Here is a sample list of Chicago’s Cook County where the crime rate is astronomical with Drugs, Murder, Prostitution, and Suicide.

    Southold Police Officer’s make $120,000 per year.

    The Weekly Blotter Report:

    DWI
    Expired Registration
    Expired Inspection
    Speeding
    Domestic Abuse
    Drugs (Greenport)

    What is wrong with this picture?

    ADAMS, TANDA D Admin Assistant II Police Department $49,440.00 1995-03-07
    AGUIRRE, ANTHONY County Police Officer Police Department $69,940.00 1989-06-26
    ALBRIGHT, THOMAS W County Police Officer Police Department $69,940.00 1995-12-04
    ALEJANDRO JR, ANTONIO County Police Officer Police Department $76,450.00 1978-08-01
    ALFORD, CYNTHIA D Admin Assistant III Police Department $54,288.00 1995-03-07
    ALLEN, MICHELLE Admin Assistant II Police Department $49,440.00 1994-08-01
    ALMEIDA, ROBERT C County Police Officer Police Department $73,122.00 1994-01-10
    ALVARADO, ARTURO J County Police Officer Police Department $79,928.00 1981-06-01
    ALVARADO, RICHARD A County Police Lieutenant Police Department $94,436.00 1978-06-01
    AMEGATCHER, KAREN E County Police Officer Police Department $73,122.00 1994-02-22
    ANDERSON, GLORIA L County Police Officer Police Department $73,122.00 1990-05-16
    ANTHONY, DARRYL E County Police Officer Police Department $66,897.00 1991-06-26
    ANTON, MICHAEL P Police Commander Police Department $101,631.00 1989-06-01
    ARRIGO, ROBERT R County Police Officer Police Department $73,122.00 1989-12-02
    ARVELO, FELIX County Police Officer Police Department $73,122.00 1991-08-12
    ASHLEY, DARRYL W County Police Officer Police Department $73,122.00 1993-10-04
    ASHLEY, SHELIA L County Police Officer Police Department $76,450.00 1988-06-16
    AUSTIN, BEVERLY County Police Officer Police Department $69,940.00 1995-09-05
    BACKSHIS, JOHN N County Police Officer Police Department $76,450.00 1980-07-01
    BADON, KEVIN D County Police Officer Police Department $69,940.00 1998-06-15
    BAE, JAE M. County Police Officer Police Department $66,897.00 2001-03-19
    BAEZ, DAVID County Police Officer Police Department $66,897.00 2000-04-10
    BAKER, ERIK Telecommunicator-Sheriff Police Department $48,065.00 2006-04-17
    BAKER, KERI Telecommunicator-Sheriff Police Department $50,440.00 2003-08-24
    BARBER, DAVID J County Police Officer Police Department $73,122.00 1980-12-15
    BARKSDALE, EDWARD D County Police Officer Police Department $69,940.00 1995-08-07
    BARLOGA, JOHN D County Police Officer Police Department $69,940.00 1995-06-12
    BARNES, MICHAEL J County Police Officer Police Department $79,928.00 1981-03-02
    BARNES, WANDA R County Police Officer Police Department $73,122.00 1990-03-06
    BARRINS, ROBERT G County Police Officer Police Department $76,450.00 1983-10-17
    BATTAGLIA, JEFFREY J County Police Officer Police Department $76,450.00 1988-03-16
    BEACHEM, DON W County Police Officer Police Department $79,928.00 1980-09-16
    BEAN, TIMOTHY L County Police Officer Police Department $76,450.00 1988-05-02
    BECKER, LAURA Traffic Crossing Guards Police Department $4,200.00 1990-10-25
    BECKER, WILLIAM J. Traffic Crossing Guards Police Department $4,200.00 2005-08-30
    BEHAN, BRENDAN P County Police Officer Police Department $69,940.00 1994-12-21
    BELLUOMINI, CATHERINE Traffic Crossing Guards Police Department $333.00 2001-04-09
    BERG, MARY Traffic Crossing Guards Police Department $4,200.00 1993-01-19
    BERG, TERRY A. Electrical Mechanic Police Department $81,952.00 2007-07-09
    BERGEL, TIMOTHY J. Telecommunicator-Sheriff Police Department $45,924.00 2006-10-30
    BERKERY, ROBERT F County Police Officer Police Department $81,727.00 1978-09-16
    BERNARD, DARYL A County Police Sergeant Police Department $83,884.00 1983-10-05
    BERTUCCI, CHRISTINE B. Admin Assistant II Police Department $46,245.00 2004-05-03
    BEVILLE, DEAN R Police Commander Police Department $101,631.00 1988-07-08
    BIALCZAK, STEVEN J County Police Officer Police Department $66,897.00 2000-04-10
    BIOCIC, REGINA E County Police Officer Police Department $73,122.00 1992-07-20
    BIRCH, MICHAEL E County Police Officer Police Department $76,450.00 1988-07-18
    BLAINO, JUANITA T County Police Officer Police Department $61,260.00 1996-03-11
    BLAIR V, JOHN H County Police Lieutenant Police Department $94,436.00 1994-03-08
    BLANCHARD, KELVIN T County Police Officer Police Department $69,940.00 1995-09-05
    BLESS, ROBERT County Police Officer Police Department $69,940.00 1996-06-03
    BLUE, ANDRE C County Police Officer Police Department $73,122.00 1992-01-27
    BOFFA, VINCENT D County Police Officer Police Department $76,450.00 1985-01-02
    BOGGIA, DOMINIC J County Police Officer Police Department $76,450.00 1988-12-05
    BOGMENKO, MICHAEL G County Police Officer Police Department $79,928.00 1977-09-01
    BOLEK, JAMES R County Police Officer Police Department $69,940.00 1995-12-04
    BONAREK, BRIAN D County Police Officer Police Department $69,940.00 1996-06-10
    BONILLA, SAMINA Telecommunicator-Sheriff Police Department $50,440.00 2004-07-26
    BOROSZ, DANIEL Data Entry Operator III Police Department $33,226.00 2008-06-09
    BOUBOUREKAS, PETER N County Police Officer Police Department $73,122.00 1993-03-22
    BOWMAN, ANTHONY M County Police Officer Police Department $66,897.00 1991-04-22
    BOYD, ANTWANN N County Police Officer Police Department $73,122.00 1992-02-03
    BOYETTE, LATONYA D Telecommunicator-Sheriff Police Department $53,970.00 1995-04-03
    BOYLE, CHRISTOPHER A County Police Officer Police Department $69,940.00 1995-06-12
    BRADFIELD, MARCUS E County Police Officer Police Department $73,122.00 1994-03-28
    BRADLEY, FOSTER H County Police Officer Police Department $69,940.00 1995-02-14
    BRAGLIA, FREDERICK T County Police Sergeant Police Department $69,183.00 1978-08-21
    BRAUN, JOHN J Telecommunicator-Sheriff Police Department $54,484.00 1993-10-04
    BROADWAY, JASON M County Police Officer Police Department $69,940.00 1994-08-01
    BRODIE, ALEXANDER L County Police Officer Police Department $73,122.00 1989-03-06
    BROSNAN, PATRICK J County Police Officer Police Department $69,940.00 1998-02-17
    BROWN, KIMBERLY A County Police Officer Police Department $69,940.00 1995-12-04
    BROWN, LATRICE K. Telecommunicator-Sheriff Police Department $41,762.00 2008-10-27
    BROWN, MATTHEW J County Police Officer Police Department $69,940.00 1999-03-02
    BROWN, TYRA County Police Officer Police Department $76,450.00 1988-05-02

  • Why do Southold Cops make so much? Here is a sample list of Chicago’s Cook County where the crime rate is astronomical with Drugs, Murder, Prostitution, and Suicide.

    Southold Police Officer’s make $120,000 per year.

    The Weekly Blotter Report:

    DWI
    Expired Registration
    Expired Inspection
    Speeding
    Domestic Abuse
    Drugs (Greenport)

    What is wrong with this picture?

    ADAMS, TANDA D Admin Assistant II Police Department $49,440.00 1995-03-07
    AGUIRRE, ANTHONY County Police Officer Police Department $69,940.00 1989-06-26
    ALBRIGHT, THOMAS W County Police Officer Police Department $69,940.00 1995-12-04
    ALEJANDRO JR, ANTONIO County Police Officer Police Department $76,450.00 1978-08-01
    ALFORD, CYNTHIA D Admin Assistant III Police Department $54,288.00 1995-03-07
    ALLEN, MICHELLE Admin Assistant II Police Department $49,440.00 1994-08-01
    ALMEIDA, ROBERT C County Police Officer Police Department $73,122.00 1994-01-10
    ALVARADO, ARTURO J County Police Officer Police Department $79,928.00 1981-06-01
    ALVARADO, RICHARD A County Police Lieutenant Police Department $94,436.00 1978-06-01
    AMEGATCHER, KAREN E County Police Officer Police Department $73,122.00 1994-02-22
    ANDERSON, GLORIA L County Police Officer Police Department $73,122.00 1990-05-16
    ANTHONY, DARRYL E County Police Officer Police Department $66,897.00 1991-06-26
    ANTON, MICHAEL P Police Commander Police Department $101,631.00 1989-06-01
    ARRIGO, ROBERT R County Police Officer Police Department $73,122.00 1989-12-02
    ARVELO, FELIX County Police Officer Police Department $73,122.00 1991-08-12
    ASHLEY, DARRYL W County Police Officer Police Department $73,122.00 1993-10-04
    ASHLEY, SHELIA L County Police Officer Police Department $76,450.00 1988-06-16
    AUSTIN, BEVERLY County Police Officer Police Department $69,940.00 1995-09-05
    BACKSHIS, JOHN N County Police Officer Police Department $76,450.00 1980-07-01
    BADON, KEVIN D County Police Officer Police Department $69,940.00 1998-06-15
    BAE, JAE M. County Police Officer Police Department $66,897.00 2001-03-19
    BAEZ, DAVID County Police Officer Police Department $66,897.00 2000-04-10
    BAKER, ERIK Telecommunicator-Sheriff Police Department $48,065.00 2006-04-17
    BAKER, KERI Telecommunicator-Sheriff Police Department $50,440.00 2003-08-24
    BARBER, DAVID J County Police Officer Police Department $73,122.00 1980-12-15
    BARKSDALE, EDWARD D County Police Officer Police Department $69,940.00 1995-08-07
    BARLOGA, JOHN D County Police Officer Police Department $69,940.00 1995-06-12
    BARNES, MICHAEL J County Police Officer Police Department $79,928.00 1981-03-02
    BARNES, WANDA R County Police Officer Police Department $73,122.00 1990-03-06
    BARRINS, ROBERT G County Police Officer Police Department $76,450.00 1983-10-17
    BATTAGLIA, JEFFREY J County Police Officer Police Department $76,450.00 1988-03-16
    BEACHEM, DON W County Police Officer Police Department $79,928.00 1980-09-16
    BEAN, TIMOTHY L County Police Officer Police Department $76,450.00 1988-05-02
    BECKER, LAURA Traffic Crossing Guards Police Department $4,200.00 1990-10-25
    BECKER, WILLIAM J. Traffic Crossing Guards Police Department $4,200.00 2005-08-30
    BEHAN, BRENDAN P County Police Officer Police Department $69,940.00 1994-12-21
    BELLUOMINI, CATHERINE Traffic Crossing Guards Police Department $333.00 2001-04-09
    BERG, MARY Traffic Crossing Guards Police Department $4,200.00 1993-01-19
    BERG, TERRY A. Electrical Mechanic Police Department $81,952.00 2007-07-09
    BERGEL, TIMOTHY J. Telecommunicator-Sheriff Police Department $45,924.00 2006-10-30
    BERKERY, ROBERT F County Police Officer Police Department $81,727.00 1978-09-16
    BERNARD, DARYL A County Police Sergeant Police Department $83,884.00 1983-10-05
    BERTUCCI, CHRISTINE B. Admin Assistant II Police Department $46,245.00 2004-05-03
    BEVILLE, DEAN R Police Commander Police Department $101,631.00 1988-07-08
    BIALCZAK, STEVEN J County Police Officer Police Department $66,897.00 2000-04-10
    BIOCIC, REGINA E County Police Officer Police Department $73,122.00 1992-07-20
    BIRCH, MICHAEL E County Police Officer Police Department $76,450.00 1988-07-18
    BLAINO, JUANITA T County Police Officer Police Department $61,260.00 1996-03-11
    BLAIR V, JOHN H County Police Lieutenant Police Department $94,436.00 1994-03-08
    BLANCHARD, KELVIN T County Police Officer Police Department $69,940.00 1995-09-05
    BLESS, ROBERT County Police Officer Police Department $69,940.00 1996-06-03
    BLUE, ANDRE C County Police Officer Police Department $73,122.00 1992-01-27
    BOFFA, VINCENT D County Police Officer Police Department $76,450.00 1985-01-02
    BOGGIA, DOMINIC J County Police Officer Police Department $76,450.00 1988-12-05
    BOGMENKO, MICHAEL G County Police Officer Police Department $79,928.00 1977-09-01
    BOLEK, JAMES R County Police Officer Police Department $69,940.00 1995-12-04
    BONAREK, BRIAN D County Police Officer Police Department $69,940.00 1996-06-10
    BONILLA, SAMINA Telecommunicator-Sheriff Police Department $50,440.00 2004-07-26
    BOROSZ, DANIEL Data Entry Operator III Police Department $33,226.00 2008-06-09
    BOUBOUREKAS, PETER N County Police Officer Police Department $73,122.00 1993-03-22
    BOWMAN, ANTHONY M County Police Officer Police Department $66,897.00 1991-04-22
    BOYD, ANTWANN N County Police Officer Police Department $73,122.00 1992-02-03
    BOYETTE, LATONYA D Telecommunicator-Sheriff Police Department $53,970.00 1995-04-03
    BOYLE, CHRISTOPHER A County Police Officer Police Department $69,940.00 1995-06-12
    BRADFIELD, MARCUS E County Police Officer Police Department $73,122.00 1994-03-28
    BRADLEY, FOSTER H County Police Officer Police Department $69,940.00 1995-02-14
    BRAGLIA, FREDERICK T County Police Sergeant Police Department $69,183.00 1978-08-21
    BRAUN, JOHN J Telecommunicator-Sheriff Police Department $54,484.00 1993-10-04
    BROADWAY, JASON M County Police Officer Police Department $69,940.00 1994-08-01
    BRODIE, ALEXANDER L County Police Officer Police Department $73,122.00 1989-03-06
    BROSNAN, PATRICK J County Police Officer Police Department $69,940.00 1998-02-17
    BROWN, KIMBERLY A County Police Officer Police Department $69,940.00 1995-12-04
    BROWN, LATRICE K. Telecommunicator-Sheriff Police Department $41,762.00 2008-10-27
    BROWN, MATTHEW J County Police Officer Police Department $69,940.00 1999-03-02
    BROWN, TYRA County Police Officer Police Department $76,450.00 1988-05-02

  • So nicely stated!

  • So nicely stated!

  • So nicely stated!

  • Funny, but I never thought of teachers as living the “highlife.” You (justifiably) worry about health taxes but sorry, teachers do not get annual raises of $4,000. Do you support consolidation of school districts as a way of saving money? Do you support an alternate system of funding schools, rather than funding through local property taxes? You (justifiably) worry about health care costs, but did you support health reform? Ask yourself why it is that in the US anybody should have to worry about meeting health care costs. And whatever your occupation is, did you ever think of forming a union to fight with others like you to get the salary, health care, and pension to which you’re entitled?

  • I apoligize…..I like your responses …..I am the idiot..my bag

  • I still dispise the Southold COP Salary!

  • I hear you; I’m doing the same, so it looks like we agree on that. Where I think we disagree is the solution. I firmly believe that all of us are entitled to benefits and a pension and would like to see all of us devote our energies to achieving that, so that all workers, public and private, have the same level of security workers had in the 1960s, for example. That’s not to deny the reality of today’s economy, but I think we as a nation have been making the wrong choices about who deserves tax breaks, or about what programs deserve funding. Good luck to all of us, though.

  • You are not seeing the current class structure in totality. Yes the upper class , the lower class, and the middle class. Have you started to notice a shift in the middle class? If you’ve been paying attention closely, you wiill have noticed the middle class is splitting into two components: the comfortable middle class that remains in tact; and those from the middle class that have broken off due to diverse life circumstance. They were not able to stand ground to the middle class proper …they are now the working poor class.

  • Take your base salary, divide it in half and pay the same bills with that amount that you normally would pay with twice the amount! For the same bills, same increases, etc. It wouldn’t be easy or feasible ,would it? Then compare the money differential comparable savings accounts! I could go on!
    If I had a union advocacy, you’d soon get pissed off at me when we ‘fought’ for better wages and started making more than you, and you’d have to fight to make more than me…!!! No unions don’t work in every scenario. And please visit http://www.seethroughny.com you will be able to view every contract and see that most all of individuals $100,000 per annual base, increase $4,000 – $5,000 per year. give or take a slight differential. And if you are not making that kind of annual increase, it’s time to go to your union rep and get more money!!! :)

  • yes, I know.. I’ve been sick this past week so have placed on hold my intent to look for a gathering hall so that we can meet and discuss the situation and learn from each other a path to take or not!

  • How do you know this? I pay over $16000 into my health insurance a year.

  • Change the record already lady

  • I am not interested in the “average” public sector worker. I am concerned with the public workers whose taxes I pay. I disagree that “we are in the same boat”. We are not even in the same ocean. Public sector workers’ penions are guaranteed. Ours aren’t. Public sector worker’s standard of living is not going down. It is being subsidized by private sector workers whose standards and pensions are going down. I am not on the right, I am on the left. I do not think Reagan is a hero at all, and I think that the rich should pay more in taxes than they do. However, I disagree with some of your statements. The not so wealthy can also invest and have dividends. I am far from rich and I invest, I have stocks that pay dividends and stocks that don’t. I think every worker should be entitled to basic health care, a decent wage and a pension. I object to having to guarantee the pensions of public workers.

  • I wonder why people vote for them also, I don’t. The problem is all those Republicans and Tea Party members, and others on the right, think somehow one day they’re going to wake up rich and somehow they’re going to be benefitted. The Republicans have deluded a whole lot of people into voting against their own best interests. Much like the Democrats are now trying to get a host of Dem to back the unions.

  • It’s coming, Taxed to Death, don’t worry, IT IS COMING! We are finally complaining loudly and we are GOING TO BE HEARD!

  • Come on now, you’ve already been told most of us are self employeed. What “employer” are most people out here going to form a union against? The deli owner? The guy that owns the marina they work at?

  • Teachers contribute about 10% of the cost of their health insurance.

  • There are no teachers on the North Fork making 140,00o per year. However, Long Island pays for the rest of the state. The state mandates many things in Education and local school districts have to figure out how to pay. The state system is broken. Every taxpayer should be going after the state government and State Ed.Dept. The list of ridiculous mandated expenses for schools is endless. Teachers, superintendents, BOE members. parents and grandparents are organizing. There has already been one rally in Sachem. There will be more to come, stay tuned.

  • So how do you know it’s miniscule? Do you know what the % is forpensions? Are you privy to every school district’s employee contracts to know what the % is for health benefits? I think not.

  • Business and management
    Schumpeter’s notebook
    The government as an employer
    From this week’s Economist
    Are public-sector workers overpaid or underpaid?

    Feb 24th 2011, 17:38 by Schumpeter
    THE American blogosphere is abuzz with a debate about whether public-sector workers are overpaid or underpaid, with the left and right taking predictable positions. They are all surely missing the real point. Such workers are both overpaid and underpaid: the public sector is characterised by a relatively flat distribution of wages, with able people paid too little (and thus constantly poached by the private sector) and time-servers paid too much, and with the main driver of promotion being years of service.

    It is clearly important to reduce the overall wage bill and bring public-sector pay and pensions under control. But, in the long run, it is also important to pay good people more, speed up their rise through the ranks, and generally widen the wage distribution in government jobs.

  • I have a friend who works for Verizon. About ten years ago it told its employees it was killing its pension plan. This should be illegal. Verizon, and companies like it, should honor its obligations to its employees. Why don’t you support candidates who would be in favor of employers keeping their word regarding pensions, or at least support 401K plans that would be protected against drops in the market? The middle class shouldn’t be fighting over the crumbs dropped from the table, but that’s what we got with trickle down economics.

  • when you expose your identity and not a moment sooner! Other wize, dear ‘coward’ …the broken record will stay, droning ; on & on, round & round just like you!!!!!!!!

  • I’m all too aware of the drop in the standard of living for much of the middle class, and I’m very nervous about my childrens’ future because of it. We still don’t have a health care policy that would address bankruptcy due to catastrophic illness, and we still give tax breaks to companies which outsource jobs overseas. Private sector employees have for the most part lost secure pensions and public sector employees face the same. Until these and similar issues are addressed much of the middle class will continue to lose ground.

  • Are you a teacher? a police person? a public servant? Please expose yourself and this truth to us, I will admit I am mistaken if you explain this one with honestly. What is your employment position? What health insurance plan is this? How many people/family members are on the plan? What kind of plan is it? Be honest please, this is info we need to know! You can remain anonymous, but please elaborate the details of this expense that you have.

  • “Right On” !! :)

  • Well, I live in Port Jeff and none of my neighbors, with one exception, are self-employed, so I’m not sure where the “most” of us are self-employed comes from. I could say, though, that when one opens their own business they do so with the knowledge that there will be good years and not so good years. You don’t want to subsidize public employee pensions. Fine. But maybe public employees don’t want to subsidize a self-employed worker’s bad years. They don’t benefit when you have good years, so why should they lose when you have bad years? But this leads to the middle class fighting between themselves. I guess it’s just easier to pick on the teachers than it is to pick on the bankers who created the mess, got bailed out, and gave themselves million dollar bonuses.

  • Well…think again! It’s homework time! Go to http://www.seethroughny.com and click on “CONTRACTS” Through out the state, all the contracts are listed!! Have a ball!

  • And I have a friend who worked in management for Verizon and they retired around that time and has a hefty pension!

  • Why would I fight to make more than you? I’m not fighting that the guy who owns the pizza place I go to eat every Friday night has a line out the door and is making, in all likelihood, a heck of a lot more money than I am. It was his choice to open a business and take the risks and benefits that entails.

    Fight and get the best wages you can. Isn’t that supposed to be part of the American way? Nobody forced the school board to agree to a contract. If you feel teachers make too much maybe you should vote for school board members who would be, in your opinion, more responsive to your concerns.

    As far as the website goes, what I saw was a series of salary steps that do lead to increases, but not every year. It’s a number of years between each of those increases, sometimes as little as two or three, and sometimes as much as five or six.

  • Are we talking about fairness ( relative$$) ? or the economic issue ( not enough $$ )The bulk of the tax cuts in $$ went to the middle class. If the ” rich” tax cuts were rescinded , without rescinding middle class cuts , the federal budget deficit would be reduced by about 1/3.
    Not enough to make much of a difference to the problem at hand ( state budget issues) . Fact is ,
    LI RE tax = 8% of avg household income vs 3% nationwide. Raising taxes on the rich in NY is not going to solve the problem, in fact , it will just exacerabate the problem…( people move to avoid taxes, i did) You want to go back to Clinton tax rates? Your taxes will go up, as will those of rich…. happy then? I actually would happy with recinding all of the bush tax cuts…
    so at least the “tax against the rich ” script that public unions are preaching from would
    evaporate. Then what? The divide between public and private service workers would remain.

  • Yeah, because “Maryan8764″ is a very personally identifiable user ID, which makes who you really are known to everyone here.

    How about this, try posting the exact same thing that you just posted, except use your real full name. Then you’ll at least have a leg to stand on, and a point.

  • If you live in Pt Jeff, why are you arguing so vociferously about things you don’t know about? Are you FROM the NF, worked here? You obviously do not know that most of us here on the NF as not as, let’s say FLUSH, as the teachers are right now.

    You say maybe public employees don’t want to subsidize the self employed? LOL, WTF have WE been doing all thise time. You mention BAILOUTS?! What do you think WE have been doing for the public sector?! Good grief, the pension goes down, we make up the dif, that’s a freaking bailout if you ask me. D Scanlon, I’m sorry, I’ve been pretty diplomatic on this board but I don’t think you have a clue at this point.

  • Why do you keep asking us why we vote for Tea party candidates, when we don’t? Or now, why don’t we support candidates in favor of employers keeping their word? You make all kinds of assumptions about who you’re talking to. YOu keep changing the subject.

  • Maryann has identified herself in numerous posts, get up to speed. Stop trolling.

    This is starting to remind me of another thread where for some reason the Scott Russell has been responding to what I consider a bunch of trolls all day on Saturday, who are insulting him anonymously in their replies.

  • US Auto companies kept their word about pensions….for a while anyway. Now there are a fraction of the autoworkers left vs “1970′s” that you seem to be hoping will return. If verizon had continued its pension plan there would be far fewer verizon workers….( and more cablevision workers and higher rates for all related services….) Is that the utopia you envision?

  • So when taxpayers roll over and agree to whatever overly rich public union demand demand….what do corporation have to do with it? So, you want to tax “corporations” …which ones? cablevision maybe? LIPA? you dont mind your rates going up? Maybe you want to tax
    walmart or target more? you willing to pay more? if not , say goodbye to cheap goods…
    maybe we can bring the autoworkers back and pay huge pensions… you like that?
    and maybe we can block all imported cars so we can pay big pensions to autoworkers…you willing to pay 30K for a 25K car?

  • So its OK with you that we on the northfork ( as well as you) pay an MTA tax with minimal service, just so the MTA can honor it’s obligation and pay lavish salaries and benefits to its workers?

  • My salary has increased on average of 2% per year ever since the economy took a nose dive. At 2% per and making half the salary as a Sothold Cop, that will earn me an increase in salary of maybe $3,000 over the next 5 years, while the Town Employee are getting $2000 to $3000 pay increases per year. I am not even getting a cost of living increase! Meanwhile, my taxes keep going up and I am now paying 43.50 per gallon for gas and I commute 100 miles round trip everyday just so I can live in Southold. It just does not add up. I am losing income just by living here!

  • $3.50 per gallon: correction

  • I have posted my full real name many times over…where’ve you been??! I am MaryAnn Fleischman. Now who are you?!

  • Thank you Pace, I agree!

  • How many tax deductions are you getting because you own your own business? Ten? Twelve? Are you willing to give them up? And every deduction you get means that somebody else is subsidizding your business through their taxes-kind of like the public sector employees you complain about. But again, that’s how the middle class gets divided and conquered and the rich get their disproportionate tax cuts.

  • How many tax deductions are you getting because you own your own business? Ten? Twelve? Are you willing to give them up? And every deduction you get means that somebody else is subsidizding your business through their taxes-kind of like the public sector employees you complain about. But again, that’s how the middle class gets divided and conquered and the rich get their disproportionate tax cuts.

  • My point exactly. Private sector employees used to get pensions. They should still get them. If she were working for Verizon today, she wouldn’t. That’s the teachers’ fault?

  • My bad. I guess I made that assumption because you pretty much recite their line.

  • Are you aware that in 2009 General Electric earned 10.3 billion in profit and paid ZERO in federal taxes? Or that Exxon made 45.2 billion and made zip in US federal tax? Or that according to the non-partisan General Accounting Office, and based on IRS records, one quarter of domestic companies with at least $250 million in assets and $50 million in sales paid no federal taxes between 1998-2005? And you think the unions are the problem? If these companies paid their fair share we wouldn’t be having this discussion. I’m not talking about soak the rich and bash the corporations, but I don’t understand why so many people on this site seem to have no problem with their losing their penisons if they’re public sector employees, or the American taxpayer.

  • Typo-I mean I don’t understand why so many people on this sit seem to accept losing their pensions if they’re private sector employees as if it were inevitable, or have nothing to say about the blatant corporate ripoff of the American taxpayer.

  • Since y0u asked, I think the MTA tax should be proportionate to the amount of service an area receives. But if you look at the MTA’s accounting methods, it’s sudden “finding” of money it claimed it didn’t have, and the general mismanagemet at the top, there’s a lot of issues besides union pay scales going on there.

  • I don’t know if you saw my response above, so I’m repeating here. You ask what corporations have to do with it. In 2009 GE made $10.3 billion in profits and paid no US federal taxes. Exxon made $45.2 billion in profits and paid nothing. Between 1998-2005, according to the IRS, one quarter of US companies with at least $50 million in sales paid not federal taxes. Do you really think that’s fair? And what’s you alternative? We should all work for the same wages they pay in India? Why are you racing to the bottom rather than making corporations pay their fair share?

  • I’m not familiar with the Southold PD’s pay scale, but I agree that pay increases like that are excessive. That doesn’t mean unions are bad, though. The NYC cops don’t make anything like cops do in Suffolk. Maybe the school districts and county need to negotiate with the unions better. There is a medium between giving away the store and total destruction of unions.

  • Ten or twelve what? I don’t think you have any idea what a tax deduction is. I deduct my cost of doing business: paper, supplies. A portion of my health insurance premiums is deducted, not all. Do you understand deductions? For every$3 you spend, it’s only a $1 deduction. Do you deduct your property taxes and mortgage interest? Do you think deductions = pay no taxes?

    This isn’t about dividing the middle class, it’s about creating a chasm between the upper middle class and the poor. I don’t call someone who makes well over 100,000 “middle class”. D Scanlon, with every post you show us how little you know.

  • You make no sense. No one said it was the teacher’s fault. @@

  • You make no sense. No one said it was the teacher’s fault. @@

  • WHose line? I’m about as dem lib as they get, and I’ve had enough of the paying for the public sector’s lifestyle. That ought to tell you what’s about to happen on Long Island. End of the free ride for you guys.

  • WHose line? I’m about as dem lib as they get, and I’ve had enough of the paying for the public sector’s lifestyle. That ought to tell you what’s about to happen on Long Island. End of the free ride for you guys.

  • Are you aware that the typical teacher/administrator income in Riverhead is 3 times what the average HOUSEHOLD’S income is?

  • Are you aware that the typical teacher/administrator income in Riverhead is 3 times what the average HOUSEHOLD’S income is?

  • Why do you think the Southold police make so much more. It’s their union. Again you keep building straw men and knocking them down. No one said unions should be destroyed.

  • It depends on the contract what % they pay. Some are 10% some are more, some are less.

  • ok some pay 8% some pay 12%. Big deal, I pay 100% of mine, and then 82% of theirs.

  • Yeah..37% among Republicans maybe. Officially it is 49% across the board.

  • Form your own NF Tea Party MaryAnn. Ya know, they’re always looking for social workers in the county. I suspect you’ve tried for one of those positions and couldn’t acquire one and now you’re bitter. As for TaxedToDeath – please leave of course you can’t find employment elsewhere. Who would hire you???

  • Seriously? Where is my tiny violin???

  • This makes NO sense. Do you realize how hard it is to find good teachers, public employees and cops that will actually live out here and pay astronomical property taxes, food prices, etc etc… and provide YOU with the services YOU as a self employed resident need. I kinda wish they would all go away, just so I could watch you and MaryAnn and Taxed To Death rot.

  • Why don’t you move?

  • I know you too and you are really starting to lose it my friend. ;)

  • And you call yourself a teacher??!! Go and reread that and maybe you will understand the message intended. Your scope is limited, expand your consciousness now! It will help you be a well-rounded learning agent to your current and future students! <3 In the future only people showing their true identity have the right to criticize me with any credibiity!

  • WHY do you INSIST on bashing cops for busting drunk drivers. Drink much?

  • The Suffolk Times blotter only reports a FRACTION of what the police deal with during the week. If you think otherwise YOU are the idiot.

  • Funny that you think I’m a teacher. I’m your peer. I’m in social work… and I get paid!

  • You are correct….this (you) make no sense! Do you know why other places to live are cheaper?….because teachers and cops make alot lesss for doing alot more!!! Haven’t you yet realized why taxes are so high on Long Island, in particular the East End……it’s because your salaries and benefits are so out of control high! GOD! I thought being a teacher you should have figured that correlation by now! And telling us to rot is equivalent to what?…the grade level you teach! Could we try to keep the level of communication to the level of adulthood? And I am still waiting for your level of credibility to rise as soon as you identify yourself by your name! You don’t have to be afraid, we actually respect people with adult difference of opinion, we won’t bite you or call you names!

  • See I’m not clairvoyant, if you don’t have courage to be up front and identify yourself I can only suppose and fantasize! Most social workers have the strength to be upfront, why not you? Talk to me about your social work profession, and what exactly it means to be ‘in social work’, I’ll smell it a mile away! :)

  • Why is social security a “TAX” ?…recipients get their “investment” back and more ( at least until it gets reduced) . Social security is a form forced savings. Tax is levied only on the first 102K but th benefits are capped as well. So how is that unfair? In fact,” rich” pay tax on a portion of their social security ( income over$35K) while poor do not, so it is progressive. And “rich”, who have other income sources ( dividends, interest) pay the full tax up to 102.K, even if they are retired …for the rest of their lives!…..AND even tho the SS”tax” is still paid, those
    “rich ” retired get absolutely NO BENEFIT for those payments in their calculated social security benefits.Repeat …….NO BENEFIT!!!…. VERY ” progressive” .
    Fact is….poor and middle class get most all of their $$ back and more, ” rich” retires continue to pay and get nothing for the extra payments. ASK YOUR acct if you dont believe me.
    forever and

  • Yes i am aware. I read forbes. Surely you read that increased corporate taxes will just be passed along to workers( lower wages, fewer jobs) , consumers ( higher prices ), and investors( lower hashare prices dividends) to compensate for increased corporate taxes …. Funny, while private sector will suffer suffer from increaed corp increased taxes (lost jobs jobs, wages, 401K) public service workers will not suffer since their jobs , wages and pensions are guaranteed by taxpayers. Are you also aware that obama’s proposed corp tax plan will attempt to elimate loopholes ( eg GE) but lower tax rates to offset the closure of these loopholes? WHY would a dem do this? Because high corp tax rates cause lack of investment, fewer jobs, lower wages. …… why do you think corporations choose NOT to come to LI??
    The weather? HIGH TAXES …

  • YOu thinks it i fair to compare white collar college educated public service workers, most of whom are teachers and administrators…. to Drs, attys, engineers, architects, accts, mba’s ? The former have 1.union protection ( vs the realities of the commercial world,,,ie “eat what you kill” … “lifo” seniority protection) 2. guaranteed 8% rate of return on pension ( vs 401K returned 2% ) 3. summers ‘off” 4. post retirement health care ( vs nil ) ……..not even close to a fair comparison.

  • Thanks for jumping on in here and trolling the thread. Did one of your teacher friends pass this on to you? I hope you aren’t a teacher, nice mouth there. If the teachers, who make well over 100,000 think our taxes are high, imagine how much higher they are for a family of 3 or 4, who earn only 46,000, which is the median household income.

  • Why don’t you? Oh, I forgot, you’re a Southold cop, and there aren’t any other places in the country where someone with a GED can make over 100,000.

  • And the latter, if you aren’t happy with their performance, or their fees, you can just not patronize. The latter always run the risk of someone else charging a little less. The latter’s pay is ruled by supply and demand. It’s apples and oranges, which is what D Scanlon is excellent at comparing. She/he is also excellent at building straw men, and at moving goal posts.

  • Paraphrasing, a dear friend, retired professor…” for the longest time, we traded off security for monetary rewards…. but there is no longer a tradeoff”

  • All white collar workers should be subject to the commercial realities of supply and demand, pay for performance…taxpayers should not be forced to subsidize the artificial world of white collar
    public service workers. Time to join the world the rest of us live in. In the commercail world that i lived in, a graduate degree afforded someone an interview. Thats it.

  • When was the last time there was a MURDER in Southold? When was the last ARMED ROBBERY?

    The COPS in Southold are preoccupied trying to hide from the public view.

    Southold is like Mayberry R.F.D.

  • I’m not really interested in getting involved in this discussion, but there was an armed robbery (I think there were actually two) in the Village of Greenport two or three weeks ago. There was a murder last summer in Southold. Just saying…

  • I live out here. Where’s my astromomical Salary!!

    We all row the same boat “OUT HERE” in Southold paying high taxes and food prices. That still does not justify paying COPS $120,000 and Teachers $140,000 per year.

  • I live out here. Where’s my astromomical Salary!!

    We all row the same boat “OUT HERE” in Southold paying high taxes and food prices. That still does not justify paying COPS $120,000 and Teachers $140,000 per year.

  • Then why doesn’t the Suffolk Times print ALL the reports?

    Example of inequity of Police Officer Salary:

    BEVILLE, DEAN R Police Commander Police Department $101,631.00 1988-07-08

    Even a Chicago Police Commanfer makes less than a Southold Patrol Officer.

    What a shame.

  • And if they don’t print all of them, you’d think they’d print the juciest ones wouldn’t you? I’m sure they wouldn’t leave out the 6 ton heroin busts and triple homicides.

  • Um. I read about the two armed robberies and the murder in the suffolk times. Talking to you is like talking to a wall. Why are you choosing Chicago? Why not choose to compare the salaries with New York cops or maybe a Chicago suburb the size of Southold Town. You are such an ass.

  • Before you call someone an ass, maybe YOU’D better check what the salaries of NYC cops are.

  • I did. Seems almost in line with Southold cops. Look for yourself: http://www.nypdrecruit.com/benefits-salary/overview

    After 5 years, base pay is 90k NOT including overtime and benefits.

    Ass.

  • I’m not even a cop. Hell, I personally think that there are a LOT of things wrong with this town — including salaries and such…. but what drives me crazy is MISINFORMATION. There are three people out here who keep lauding this SeeThroughNY website… saying that it is the absolute truth. Read this Suffolk Times story: http://suffolktimes.timesreview.com/2010/11/4181/town-hires-three-new-police-officers/

    3 new officers were hired in 2010 (to replace 6 officers lost) and their starting salary was less than 40k

    That is NOT absurd in my book. It just seems like taxed to death has some sort of axe to grind and MaryAn? Look at some of the other threads…. she is a former teacher who was canned from Greenport School. I wonder if she would have the same thing to say about teachers if she were still employed as one.

  • You answered your own question. Southold has one (1) murder in 2010, if the informational is factual and you tell me a city like Chicago, who has many more serious crimes and a huge population , only get a salary of $60k to $80k per year? What a joke! Your a Jackhole! I am sick and tired of this kind of government management here! Can you prove that those new officer’s make $40K or less? There is no misinformation, just concerned TAXPAYERS investigating the FACTS! There is no apple to apple comparision with the NYC Police, Chicago Police AND South Town COPS. This Town is out of control and I am NOT paying for Town Employee salaries”just because it is expensive to live here”. This is such an outlandish excuse it makes me SICK!

  • I guess the Suffolk Times lied when they reported that one, huh?

  • I am not a former teacher. Speak to me when and only when you decide to show your identity. Read my explanation about the Greenport Schools when Gary Charters tried to discredit me last week & he was there as a Board member! Yawn, Yawn!! Last week opinion page, a lenghtly explanation by me of the then GHS Board of Education person who was every where you looked back then. I know her secrets and she screwed me anyway., because she was so powerful..?!. not! Also, Look in the Suffolk Times archives,spring of 2001 and you will learn what a smug, mis informed person you are! Is that you Gary again trying with a new hidden name to hide behind???!!! Your ignorance is glaring! You’re not hurting me, my reputation speaks highly for itself. I’ll debate with you any day, any time. Show yourself like a grown -up.. ….who are you? A man? : HELL NO! :) Let me know, then let’s talk like grown-ups! I know a great therapist that could help you overcome your shortcomings!

  • I am a teacher. I currently pay over 15% into my health care and it has gone up 3% since last year. Next year there will be another 4% increase. There are 2 people on my plan.

  • I know many of you despise teachers for the simple reason that you believe we make too much money. I would like to know how much should a teacher make?

    Let’s pretend I was an independent contractor:

    Perhaps I could be paid $5 per child, per day. I have almost 140 students on my roster.

    140 x $5= $700
    182 x $700= $127,400
    *Remember, this is only ‘teaching time’. This does not include lesson planning, parent conferences, reviewing assessment data, creating curriculum, completing paper work, etc. For those services I will only charge $50 per hour (and you’re getting off cheap). Let’s say that takes 15 hours of my week (minimally, but maybe I should be keeping track).
    $50×15=$750 $750×40 weeks= $30,000

    So now we’re up to $157, 400.

    -Would it be reasonable for me to charge for things like counseling troubled students? (Psychologists charge $100 or more an hour.)
    -Enforcing school rules, breaking up altercations, ensuring the safety of all students?
    (Looks like the cops are doing pretty well. Wonder how much they make an hour??)
    -Data entry? (Gradebooks are now computerized.)
    -Web site moderator (Assignments are put on-line to assist those who can’t make it to school.)
    -Other?
    Let’s add another $10K for those services (it’s just pretend, right?)

    That’s $167, 400….I don’t make any where near that! In fact, it would take me several more years of my own education and at least 20 more years of service to even imagine making that.

    Maybe you are correct–the Unions are ruining things for me.

  • Thank you for your hard work!

  • Thank you for your hard work.

  • Look again. Their base pay is 46,000. It’s with benefits that it reaches 90,000. I kinda think their job is a little more dangerous.

    Wash your mouth out.

  • That would be great. Perhaps we could get each parent to pay each teacher $5 a day to educate their children. Because I can’t pay any more taxes.

  • There are two people on my plan, too, I pay almost $900 a month. Boo hoo.

  • You are describing exactly what most independent contractors do. However, we don’t continue to get paid over 100,000 after we retire (ha, IF we retire). I don’t think the problem is so much what teachers are paid. The problem is that we must continue to pay them after they retire, out of our pockets. That your pension, which you contribute a small portion to, is guaranteed. You see, our pensions went DOWN because everyone’s investments tanked. No one is making up the difference for us, but we are making up the difference for you.

  • I like that. I was also thinking similar to Town of Southold yellow bag pay for use system for garbage disposal……Pay as you go teaching services. No children in school….no pay! Yeah! I like that too. It is amazing how all the self serving teachers band together , try so hard to justify their worth and the out of control economic hardship they have bestowed on Long Island. Not one of them has the smarts or empathy to go outside themself to see the bigger, global situation. Maybe all that book-smart is wasted….Can I observe your banter with St. Peter at the pearly gates about your justification to do harm?

  • Independent contractors must survive by continully proving their value. The must continue “selling “always. Hunt for customers / clients. No pension, no benefits. “Eat what you kill”.
    Deal with competion. No union to protect and coddle… no lifo, Join the world the rest of us live in.

  • i’m sorry, typo. Their base pay is about 76,000. Look at the website YOU POSTED again. When you click on the years, the medalion shows their base pay, THEN their pay with benefits, which is about 90,000.

  • i’m sorry, typo. Their base pay is about 76,000. Look at the website YOU POSTED again. When you click on the years, the medalion shows their base pay, THEN their pay with benefits, which is about 90,000.

  • You will find some teachers working as independent contractors after they retire on their 100,000 pensions, where continue to take money out of the pockets of the long-time self employed, since they have a comfy cushion to fall back on if there aren’t enough clients/customers to spread around to everyone. It’s a flexible job that gives them even more free time than teaching did, and there is no urgency to perform because it’s just gravy.

  • It’s apparent that one thing teachers are good at is taking tests. That’s why they always brag about their advanced degrees. It’s like saying “I got ALL “A”s!” in 4th grade. They like taking tests, they’re good at doing it, and they are stuck in the grade-school way of thinking that the better you do on tests, the smarter you are, which they extrapolate to the grown up world of “the smarter you are the more money you make”, which isn’t necessarily true, because that’s part of it, but you have to be more than just book smart to succeed in the real world.

  • The teacher bashing has to stop.

  • Do you actually own a house in Southold Town Maryan8764? Word has it that you don’t…

  • That statement reminds me of the bully on the play ground….as long a they sling the shit, everything is fine. Once they get a taste of the reverse they cry out…”stop, stop, you’re so unfair” Grow up , take it or don’t dish it out. You can’t have it both ways anymore….we have had enough and we are now barking right back at ya!

  • Once a gain your credibility is in the toilet. Where ever /whoever is pumping you with info is wrong. Once again!

  • But again, this is America. One is free to pursue whatever profession they choose. You chose to open your own business. I’m sure you were aware of the risks. I choose to enter a profession that provides me with a pension that I contribute to. After I retire and if I’m still able to work, am I not allowed to do so? I’m sure you wouldn’t appreciate someone telling you could or could not do with your life. Perhaps you should re-evaluate your business plan to see how you can keep customers from going elsewhere.

  • Thank you for support.

  • I am not trying to justify my worth. I was simply attempting to outline what a teacher’s salary could look like if they worked as independent contractors. An alternate perspective on an obviously incendiary subject was all that was intended.
    Your conjecture and insults are unwarranted and frankly, take away any credibility you may have had with your concerns.

  • Teachme has a mathematical problem. You don’t spend all day with 140 students do you? Rather more like a fraction of an hour. So either assume you should get $5 per child per hour or redo your calculation. $700/day, for professional services, is expert consultant pay.

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  • I can read it 100 times. As I corrected myself in the post below, the BASE PAY after 5.5 years is 76,488. This is for “base pay, longevity pay, holiday, uniform allowance and average night shift differential. It doesn not include overtime” OR BENEFITS. With benefits it’s $90,829 after 5.5 years. WITH BENFITS. You’re correct, it doesn’t include overtime but with benefits it’s 90,829. By the way, you say after FIVE years. After 5 years their base pay with benefits is only 69,000.

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  • No middle class american makes $80,000 per year plus health benefits unless they were in a system that was public and killing the “other” middle class.

  • This is retired milk money!

  • I take back my yellow bag theory pay for educational use….I’m now thinking of a better plan…abolish the public educational system as it currenly stands, make it all private pay usage. Like Chatholic and other private schools… Tuition charges for student use. Each school is their own entity, developing budgets according to student enrollment income. Rather then reverse as now, : make a budget then rake the taxpayer with no choice of refusal.

  • You are correct, you can choose to do whatever you want after you retire. What you contribute to your pension however, is minuscule. Forgive me for resenting the fact that I pay you not to work, and then you take business away from me.

  • Maryanne! You are following my thoughts…welcome aboard! Let’s gather our supporters and demand justice at Town Hall. At least we will get our pictures taken and some Suffolk Times Press. These salaries demand public and newsworthy attention. More details to follow. We will have to file a Committee to Southold Town Hall in order to petition a public protest. I already have two lawyers that will support us the Town to justify the salaries, benefits, and Unions supporting the Town. The Taxpayers may finally get some justice.

  • No, think again. At the secondary level, students have each core subject for one period. I have 140 students during the course of one day. Elementary teachers have roughly 25 students for the entire day, so they would have a different “pay”.

  • Tax to Death…I’m working on securing a hall/meeting room for “the working poor” to meet and discuss the situation with a planof action thereafter. To start with a protest is cart before the wheel. Please decide whether you want ‘the show’ , or to truly work toward social change. If you choose the social change path then it requires thought and planning. I’m not interested in a hoopla protest . I’m seeking fixing the problem from the foundation, not just bandaid work. Are you interested? Email me, you’ll have to identify self….. Maryan8764@aol.com

  • Ok, Maryann, I will type slower for you. In this day and age it is unwise to put your identity and personal information on the Internet.
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  • You make some goodpoints, but I do pay almost 20% (some pay 50% and I know it’s not the same, it’s just info.) into my health insurance now. I pay for my supplies now. Someone may charge $4, but due to the results my students get on tests, I may charge $10…maybe I could even take cash, like many of the independent contractors I have dealt with and know personally. ;)

  • Then improve your business and keep your customers.

  • Then email me right now…with your identity Maryan8764@aol.com I am not disparraging anyone. I have had the courage to shine the light on a situation that most people are afraid to speak out against! There are much more than me, but people are afraid of the bullies and the petty retribution that occurs from the bullies. I fear not, I hide not. Email me & show yourself.

  • reread that…you have missed the point

  • If you live on Soundview Avenue, then we need to work on our relationship first before we attack our Town problems.

  • don’t understand

  • My business is fine. My customers are loyal. THanks for your concern.

  • You may deal with some landscapers or handymen who take cash. Independent contractors and self employed that I am referring to, that I fall into the category of, we have legitimate businesses and receive 1099s. Even a landscaper, once one of his workers cuts a finger off, is going to find out that it is better to be legit, pay taxes, and have workers insurance.

  • I am afraid of Town Employee’s retaliating against me so I want to keep my identity and property safe from harm’s way. Once the ‘Cat is let out of the Bag”, we will be targets for the Town Emplyee’s.

    MaryAnne, if you don’t reside on Soundview Ave in Southold, then disregard my previous comment. I have a bone to pick with another Mary Anne who lives in Southold.

  • I own a house in Southold AND I am proud to say I pay an ENORMOUS amount of Taxes for this priviledge. Thank-you.

  • You seem to have a bone to pick with everyone, you nut job and I hope that the cops figure out who you are and get you on a dwi.

  • Dear Ellen (434): I couldn’t agree with you more. For Benja Schwartz not to have the recognition he deserves is ridiculous. Whoever invented the phrase, “a mind is a terrible thing to waste” had brains like Benja’s in mind. Call me at either 477-0016, or my cell, 765-1212. If we can figure how to get him on the ballot, I will be happy to back him, together with your help. HERB ERNEST

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  • I hope you don’t feel this way about PRIVATE unions. They exist to keep the capitalists in check , without whom we would all be living in shacks and eating gruel…

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  • What grade do you teach? !! Not able to stand up like a grown-up? No need to name call or use put-down childlike ways to communicate. Email me, show yourself…it’s not the internet, it’s private. Your credibility is in the toilet. You must be so afraid, I know a good therapist that could help you overcome your shortcomings! Just reach out! :) :) :) :)

  • Are you a Social Worker, or ‘in social work’? Tell me the shift in the field about 20 years ago that affected the profession, and do you think it was good or bad. And three years ago a major shift happened , what was it?

  • Let’s be real. Only a few years ago, unless you were dedicated to public service (shockingly, it is the nature of some to want to help others) or chose a meager public sector job for its security and benefits, many individuals chose a career path to the private sector community for its better salaries and bonuses. Whereas, public sector employees averaged 2 to 4 percent salary increases over a 25 year period, private sector averaged 8 to 40 per cent over the same period. More reward, comes greater risk. Even today, Wall St., with its bailouts, still doled out $1.2 billion in bonuses. Where’s the outrrage about that?

  • For the purpose of this discussion, Wall Street is an anomaly. Very few people who live here work on Wall Street. These salaries are being propped up by people whose salaries have been cut or lost over the past few years. We can no longer afford you. In the 60′s and 70s, yes, public sector workers made less, but had job security and a pension. In the intervening time, their pay has gone UP, and that private sector pay has gone DOWN and benefits have been lost. Why is it so hard to understand? Why do I keep reading these posts rehashing the past “we USED to make less than you!!”. Now it is beyond the situation being reversed, now the situation is that an artificial upper middle class that is impermiable to the markets has been created, and it’s as if it is a welfare class being supported on the backs of the downwardly moving middle class.

  • Why don’t people look where the real problem is in goverment. It’s not the plow operator or the beat cop, In a one square mile village management consumes 46% of payroll. Let’s find out what it is in the town , county,state and federal levels. As a note the average teacher in Wisconsin is around $47,000 Check there state website, the real figures are there. This is the old trick of politicans blame game distraction, Homework may be boring but it will educate a lot more then any politican’s self serving statements

  • Hogwarts School of Wizardry. as it is only in fantasy that one would see an empty school parking lot at 2:30.

  • So well Put!! I submit the downwardly moving middle class is “The Working-Poor Taxpayer” I am in process of organizing a meeting for like minded people who want to collectively address the problem that we are faced with and are willing to put together a plan of action for change in the structure of the out of control systems that are not working for us anymore. Details to be announced shortly.

  • For this discussion, I was a private sector employee in the 80′s, 90′s, until 2002. While my sister and I were in the private sector, with average salary increases of 8 to 30%, plus bonuses depending on closed deals and/or sales, our brother was a music teacher because of his deep passion and love for music and children. He took his small step increases and will have a modest retirement. It is not a rehash of the past. The beloved music teacher is only now nearing retirement. While the sisters, over the years saved a more than modest nest egg, the brother is only now realizing his public benefit retirement and a “guest” poster as yourself begrudges someon who worked his whole selfless life to attain.

  • I agree with much of what you present, however to work up in momentum is the only strategic planning that will work. Without having to do the homework that you have already done, please share your info. Else I go by the proportions in my very real, very local property tax bill. It indicates a small fraction of my money is going to the Town/Village Public Sector. I am not concerned on wasting energy on that when that will fall into place all by itself if we stay alert. Almost 70% of my tax bill is designated for the School District, and that budget is top heavy only with salary and benfit for the Teaching staff. To address the immediate bleed in the sytem, tangible, with the greatest chance for success for change, is where I will set my energy. Thereafter, the health care system, and the federal government will not seem as overwhelming a place to focus energy for change. Starting as big as the feds first is a surefire way to get blocked and stop future movement for change…it’s just human nature to give up in frustration. Addressing that which is in reach is where I think the “working-poor taxpayer” has the greater chance for success. Look in the community for info on when and where …a meeting for the working poor taxpayer is being organized within the month.

  • Your best hope is that your teachers and police force on the NF do make $80-$100,000.(as if this is some exorbitant salary anyway.(Fact: to live on L.I. you need a family income of $80,000 poverty level) Otherwise, they will not afford to live on the North Fork. You will be a town with no teachers or police. Crime will run amok and your children will be illiterate. The insatiable greed of a few, laughing wealthy have pitted neighbor against neighbor.

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  • “Neighbor against neighbor” is the party line. Fact is in Riverhead the average household income is $46,000. That’s a household. They live on the North Fork, too. When one neighbor’s household is earning $46,000, and the teachers next door combined make over $2o0,000 there’s something seriously out of whack. When teachers from one district live in a neighboring district because the taxes are lower there, something is wrong.

  • I will see you soon and I hope other Southold residents will join us.

  • I have a bone to pick with you, if you are interested.

  • Estimated Southold median household income in 2009: $70,483

    Southold is not Riverhead.

  • Correct, Southold is not Riverhead. However I would point out that $70,483 is the median HOUSEHOLD income. So in Southold one teacher earns almost twice what an entire household makes. And works 180 days a year.

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