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  • Wall Street, investment bankers, oil company higher-ups, and CEO’s of corporations make “obscene” salaries.
    I hardly think a teacher making $60K is even remotely close to being obscene.

  • This is addressed to Nancy Wells: Like it or not, The Suffolk Times is first and foremost a newspaper. And one of the things a newspaper does is report the news. And it is, in fact, news when the town supervisor takes a leave of absence due to personal reasons (and pens a public letter explaining the circumstances). Imagine The New York Times not reporting President Obama taking a leave under similar circumstances? No, neither can I. Sometimes the news, however painful it may be, demands to be reported… even in a small town.

  • Mr. Copertino writes half truths and slanders against The President of the United States. I’m sure HE believes the tripe he spews.” I believe he favors Muslim supremacy” Mr. C prefers to see the world through his own RACIST eyes! His psychotic tirades about the President stem from his hatred for the color of Obama’s skin! What else can one surmise from the neurotic rants he pens. Copertino’s ignorance is astounding; his arrogance intolerable.

  • Seem to be a lot of bigots shouting from the rooftops this week. Jack–You are in need of a serious dose of empathy. I hope you have a grandkid that is gay so you can see that it is a NORMAL human condition and they are entitled to the same rights as everyone else. And Mr. Copertino–you are so far gone that words won’t do any good. But wow–just wow. Your hero GW Bush said the same tolerant words about Islam post-9/11. And for good reason. Would you would really have the US declare war on all Muslims even though the vast majority reject the murderous few who wrongly kill in the name of religion?

  • Diligence and hard work get you to $130k? I suppose the contractually obligated pay raises and step increases have nothing to do with it then.

    That same teacher who is earning $130k when she retires ends up with a pension package and health benefits that are worth over a million dollars assuming they live to the average life expectancy. I don’t know what your definition of rich is, but I’m not feeling much pity for someone who ends up with that kind of package working roughly 60 less days a year than your typical private sector worker.

    Sure, there are wealthy bankers and executives out here on the North Fork. Guess what, their pay doesn’t come out of my property taxes. The more second homes they have out here the better, as they are generally paying a lot in property taxes and don’t take much out of the system. They are also paying the highest state and federal tax rates. What do you define as a fair share? 60, 70% of their income in taxes? Guess what, if you have a married couple, say a town cop with 15 years on the job and a teacher with a similar tenure, you are going to end up with a combined income in the $200-250k range. According to President Obama, you are RICH, and better yet, your nice retirement is guaranteed by the rest of us.

  • I don’t know what middle class person makes 130,000. Teachers are not like me or anyone else I know. No one I know has 10 weeks vacation, and is off for a week at a time over Christmas, Easter, and “spring break”. Most do not get health benefits, and if they do it is just for themselves, not the whole family, and they don’t pay 10% of the cost, they pay more like 50%. Many people on the North Fork make more like 50,000-60,000. My taxes don’t pay the salaries of other people who have money.

  • Yes, diligence and hard work–25 years of it– may allow you the ability to earn $130K. That isn’t outrageous. There are many other professions where you could earn that starting out or after 5 years. Some are private sector, but some, like government or law enforcement are public. People go into a career knowing what type of compensation they will receive.
    If you are unhappy in your current postion do something about it. I have no pity for someone who chooses not to.

  • You earn raises through diligence and hard work in the private sector. Contracts make them mandatory in the public sector. One merely needs to be competent in their public sector duties to go from $40k to $130k over their career.

  • pps- teachers don’t pay state taxes on their pensions which are guaranteed by the rest of the state taxpayers.

  • Thanks to Seth Bank; your wisdom could be applied to so many of the posts on this page … the animosity displayed among these writings is bewildering.
    Thanks also to Carol Gillooly for illuminating the good that I know is out there.

  • Again, stay on the topic. Yes teachers have vacations and get health benefits, but those vacations and benefits EXCEED what most employees get. NO ONE except and educator, gets a raise simply because they got more college credits. I did not become a teacher for the same reason you did not become whatever it is you are: the job did not interest me. I did not make my career choice based on how much money I made, I made it based on what I enjoyed.

    And yes, I know teachers pay taxes, they can well afford to. A teacher making 100,000 has a slightly easier time paying taxes of $8,000 than a typical NF homeowner, who may not have a HOUSEHOLD income of 100,000.

  • So then you admit teachers are not in it for the children, they are in it for the money?

  • If you participate in a market economy you pay everyones salary. If you buy gas, you pay the oil CEOs salary, if you have cable, you bay Charles Dolan’s salary, if you purchase coca cola products you also pay the at CEO’s salary.

  • You are missing the point that everyone else is making. No one is upset necessarily with the job that teachers are doing. The upset is coming from an economy in which more and more people in most employment fields/opportunities and sectors are having to forgo the “mandatory contract crapola” that allows for unnecessary raises, increases, pension bonuses etc. Teachers have a tough job, that is true enough, but the argument that they don’t make enough money to “do what they do” is just ridiculous. Unions are driving up the cost of educating our children not because the teaching profession has become harder, but because it has become greedier. The sad part that is being missed by most is that the only one’s truly suffering in all of this is the quality of our children’s education.

  • And you can choose not to purchase cable, buy coke, or drive a car. I’d bet there are many people who have cut out or drastically cut down on a lot of those things.

  • You could follow you own logical and choose to live in an area with a lower cost of living and less property taxes.

  • And when we move to an area with lower property taxes, who will replace us? Where will they work in order to afford these taxes? The schools? You are aware I’m sure, that many retired teachers leave the area because of the taxes also?