WalMart-related traffic plans mulled for Route 58 & Kroemer Avenue

03/31/2011 1:05 PM |

Cars heading north on Riverhead’s Kroemer Avenue would be prohibited from turning left onto Route 58 under a traffic plan being considered by the Town Board.

Suffolk County Department of Public Works is suggesting the plan as a way to deal with the large number vehicles expected to be heading in and out of what will soon be a massive super Walmart store on the north side of Route 58, across from Tanger Outlets. Once built, the Walmart would use the same access road that currently feeds the Applebee’s restaurant. That access road aligns with an existing traffic light at Route 58 and Kroemer Avenue.

Bill Hillman, a county engineer, recommended in a letter to town officials last month that left turns onto Route 58 be banned. He also suggested no left turns onto Route 58 from what will be a newly constructed western exit at the WalMart property.

The land slated for the Walmart is located between Applebee’s and the New York State Department of Transportation yard on Route 58.

“The DPW is requesting this to keep the flow of traffic on Route 58,” Riverhead Supervisor Sean Walter said during Thursday’s pubic Town Board work session, at which officials considered the plan. “There is going to be two lanes of traffic coming out of Walmart to make a right turn [onto 58] and you’re not going to be able to time the light for two lanes of traffic making a right and still allow traffic from Kroemer Avenue to make a left.”

Mr. Walter said he was told allowing left turns onto Route 58 from Kroemer Avenue “would mess up the timing on the all the other traffic lights to the east.”

The Town Board has tentatively planned a 7:20 p.m. April 20 public hearing in Town Hall on the Kroemer left turn ban proposal.

Mr. Hillman said traffic counts showed relatively few drivers looking to head west from Kroemer Avenue onto Route 58, and that the drivers that do want to head in that direction can do so from Route 25 which also intersects with Kroemer Avenue just to the south.

Councilman John Dunleavy reminded that the state DOT still is planning to put a traffic light at the Route 25 and Kroemer Avenue intersection, for which the Walmart developer, New Jersey-based Headriver LLC., is required to pay.

“I don’t like it,” Councilman Jim Wooten said flatly of the left turn ban. “If they can put a left turn signal by Home Depot they can do it here.”

tgannon@timesreview.com

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  • SO NOW WHEN TOURISTS GET OFF THE EWAY AND NEEDS TO GET TO THE HILTON WILL HAVE TO DRIVE WAY OUT OF THEIR WAY TO MAKE A TURN GO HEAD BACK TO THE HOTEL..HA HA HA ..WAIT TO SEE THE ACCIDENTS HAPPEN…
    REMEMBER IT WAS A COUNTY ENGINEER THAT PUT TOGETHER THE CIRCLE THAT FLOODS EVERYTHING OUT.WITH OUT THAT CIRCLE ON MIDDLE ROAD AT LEAST OSBORNE AVE HOMES WOULD OF BEEN SAVED..
    I HAVE TO SIT DOWN I’M AGREEING WITH WOOTEN….BUT HE IS CORRECT..GOD THAT HURT MY HEAD TO DO THAT!!

  • If there are public safety concerns here becuase of traffic, WHY WAS THE PLAN APPROVED?????? I live very nearby and this would be a huge pain in the ass for me and many others in my apt complex. We already have a Walmart. Read reports from over the country people. Walmart is insured in such a way that they can come in, build anohter store, close the orignal one, and let it lie there, a dormant eyesore for years, without ever losing a dime…think it won’t happen here? Get a clue!!!

  • If there are public safety concerns here becuase of traffic, WHY WAS THE PLAN APPROVED?????? I live very nearby and this would be a huge pain in the ass for me and many others in my apt complex. We already have a Walmart. Read reports from over the country people. Walmart is insured in such a way that they can come in, build anohter store, close the orignal one, and let it lie there, a dormant eyesore for years, without ever losing a dime…think it won’t happen here? Get a clue!!!

  • What’s the big deal. Once Lowe’s, Super Walmart and the shopping center for the old Hazeltine property open, there’ll be no traffic flow problems. There’ll just be one big parking lot with traffic lights every 100′! The answer to this problem – teach the Town Board how to say no. All together, turn your head to the left and then to the right. Repeat. This country was founded “of the people, by the people and for the people”. Stop the overdevelopment of Route 58 and the problem will solve itself! Listen to the people.

  • PROBLEM IS, IF PEOPLE CAN MAKE A LEFT OUT OF HOME DEPOT THEN WHY NOT THERE, AND LIKE ONE PERSON SAID ON HERE, WHAT IF SOMEONE WANTS TO GET TO THE HOTTEL OFF THE EXPRESSWAY, THEY ARE NOT GOING TO DRIVE OUT OF THE WAY. SO MY THING IIS JUST SET UP THE AREA WITH AN ARROW LIGHT AND BE DONE WITH IT, I MEAN SHIT, WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE IF WE HAVE TO MAKE ANOTHER LIGHT, THERE ARE ABOUT A ZILLION ON THERE NOW ON 58, AND I LIVE CLOSE BY TOO. THE TOWN AND THE ENGINEER NEED TO STOP MAKING MOUNTAINS OUT OF MOHILLS AND GET THE SHIT DONE, AND MAKE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THE TAX PAYERS HAVE THE SAY IN WHAT IS DONE, AND I’M IN AGREEING WITH WOOTEN ALSO…I THINK SOME OF US THAT LIVE HERE IN THE TOWN NEED TO MAKE AN APPEARANCE AT TOWN HALL FOR THIS MEETING, AS I WANT TO HEAR WHAT IS GOING ON AND IF I HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY I WANT TO BE HEARD AND NOT JUST THERE IF THINGS ARE NOT TO MY LIKING EITHER.

  • As for all the questions about what will the fate of the old wal-mart building be, as I explained on facebook-The old wal-mart is going to be a Kohl’s. One of the reasons why wal-mat did all those renovations-even though they are leaving fairly soon, is because Kohl’s made a deal with the landlord that they will move in, but only if wal-mart cleaned up that pig-sty of a building and renovate it.

    This is what I heard when I used to work in that complex almost a year ago, so hopefully it is still true…..

    I agree with Fed up. The town board needs to stop being spoon-fed and use that pink squishy-thing in their head called a brain…..get downtown fixed already! We have almost every chain store known to man, we don’t need every store chain to fall into a “Sleepy’s” syndrome! We don’t need three of everything!

  • Although I was told also that it will become Kohls like you.Walmarts all over Long Island hve been done over..

    This is the worst Town Board we have had…..