Polo, BMW races & model airplanes — all being pitched for EPCAL

04/07/2011 12:50 PM |

BARBARAELLEN KOCH FILE PHOTO | EPCAL's north gate on Route 25 in Calverton when it was closed by the DOT over traffic concerns.

One group wants to organize polo matches. Another wants to fly model airplanes. And still another hopes to hold BMW drag races.

But the organizations need land for their quite different hobbies.

One thing they have in common is they’re all looking to lease space at the Enterprise Park at Calverton, according to Riverhead Councilwoman Jodi Giglio.

Riverhead Town, which owns the land, well, the town needs money. The Town Board has just authorized a $448,000 study to look at what uses and zoning should be allowed at the former Grumman naval weapons plant property, now referred to as EPCAL.

The comprehensive study is expected to take about two years to complete and Supervisor Sean Walter said he doesn’t think the town will be actively marketing the property during that time.

But Ms. Giglio and Councilman John Dunleavy feel the town should be entertaining offers to at least lease the property in the interim.

“We’re losing a lot of money out there,” Mr. Dunleavy said during a discussion at a public Town Board work session Thursday.

A group from Argentina that is looking to play polo at EPCAL is scheduled to meet with Ms. Giglio and Mr. Dunleavy today, as Mr. Walter wouldn’t allow the group to be on the regular work session schedule.

The supervisor said Jack O’Connor, the town’s real estate broker at EPCAL, contacted him about the Argentinian group four months ago. Mr. Walter said he wanted a written proposal, but all the group submitted was a web site address that showed 300 single-family houses as part of the polo plan.

“I don’t want to elevate something like this to the front burner,” he said.

Ms. Giglio, Mr. Dunleavy and Councilman Jim Wooten planned to meet with the group today at 1 p.m. but Mr. Walter reminded them that only two Town Board members can meet under state public meeting laws. Otherwise the trio would have to formally alert the press.

Neither Ms. Giglio nor Mr. Dunleavy could remember the group’s name during Thursday’s work session.

Ms. Giglio said she’s also been contacted by a group that wants to race muffled BMW’s along the unused runway at EPCAL on Friday and Saturday nights for $100,000 per year.

And, she said, the Academy of Model Aeronautics, which flies model airplanes, wants to use EPCAl for about $20,000 per year.

That group sought to use EPCAL in 2007 but the town went into contract with Riverhead Resorts for the same property they sought to lease and the deal fell through.

The Riverhead Resorts plan, which sought to buy 755 acres for $108 million, fell through earlier this year.

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  • Supervisor Walter continues to disappoint his constituents that believed he would bring new business to Riverhead. If folks want to see what the polo idea could bring to the area all they need to do is look at what has happened in the Wellington, Florida area. The facilities could have many uses and is a great fit for the North Fork as the area is one the few “horse friendly” areas on Long Island. It’s unbelievable that the town leaders would want to spend nearly a half million dollars to “study” as opposed to taking in cash that could finally bring ongoing revenue in the future. Is it time to vote yet…

  • Polo would be a great use, for the reasons stated above. Unlike a noisy RACETRACK, as some would love to see, it would bring a higher class of people to the north fork.

  • ALL THESE SPORTS REQUIRE DIFFERENT SURFACES. POLO NEEDS GRASS, THE MODEL PLANES COULD USE THE GRASS TOO….BUT THE BMW IS GOING TO NEED TRACK, EITHER DIRT OR SOLID SURFACE, HOW WILL YOU ACCOMPLIS THIS.

    ALSO POLO MAKES THE LEAST AMOUNT OF NOISE…AND POLUTION….THE OTHER TWO ARE NOISEY AND POLUTTING…..

  • what about the 300 single family homes? that is not a temporary one or two year use

  • NASCAR BABY! VARROOM. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

  • NASCAR !SORRY ,IT COULD MAKE THE TOWN A TON OF MONEY BUT WE CANT SCARE THE OWLS.ENVIRONUTS WONT HAVE IT.

  • I find it odd that the proposals that seem to get attention are to accommodate foreign interest, Riverhead Resorts was a Scottish concern choosen over an well established American developer and now an Argentine polo club gets a shot over providing American racers a safe alternative which could be easily accommodated on the existing runways. The horses may make less noise but they’ll be hard on the salamanders that will get crushed under the hooves of those horses or spit out of the mowers trimming the fields of the long grasses where the short eared owls thrive. The way I see it if things were done for Americans maybe America wouldn’t be in the sad shape it is today. Think about your own and give the rest the bone. Sorry if that isn’t politically correct but I worry about my country and my fellow Americans. Time for our politicians to work for those that provide them their check. Get some guts. Re-elect Steve Levy

  • So anyone who likes motorsports is lower class? this is typical comment made by a narrow minded person. Any motorsports would bring in more revenue than polo and keep hundreds of LI businesses and thousands of employees working in these hard times.

  • Motosports would go the way of Parr meadows. It isn’t a big enough population radius to draw from. As for the clientele they would do all their eating and drinking at the track not downtown. Those are min wage jobs. They might use a motel nearby. Jobs for illegals and min wage there too.

  • Because Americans don’t give a hoot about salamanders, the environment, noise or pollution just give us our vrooom vrooom fast cars. Now you know what I meant by a better class of people.

  • Really, to make a claim like that you should use your real name

    Martin Johnson, pres
    Long Island Motorsports Association.

    I’ll intro you to people that will be so happy to hear your careless blundering thoughts.

    Many right from your own town, even your block possibly.

    Polo, isn’t creating jobs, or doing anything for your towns situation

  • ….and I don’t have a single original thought in my head.

  • Ah the old horses are enviromentally “clean” argument. Are you sure? Talk to the few remaining horse farm owners and see about that. Or just listen to me. The manure/urine soiled bedding from the stalls has been found to be not good for the ground water. So if the “enviromentally fragile” area surrounding the property in question (you remember, home to assorted endangered creatures) has ground water (it does) that could be affected by said animal waste, you have an issue. It isn’t what it seems and that’s a fact. I find it interesting that once again, the original least intrusive temporary use for an existing runway is not mentioned. Other than for “muffled BMW’s”. The bias against the motor sport community continues.

  • get a life elitist jack wagon.

  • Hey “GUEST” anytime you want to debate this in an open public forum bring it on, I dare you. You are so far off base and wrong it’s pathetic.

  • I think we will need a crane to get the elitist a hole off his “high horse”. Pun intended jack wad!

  • Well I’m upper upper class high society
    God’s gift to ballroom notoriety
    And I always fill my ballroom
    The event is never small
    The social pages say I’ve got
    The biggest balls of all

    I’ve got big balls
    I’ve got big balls
    They’re such big balls
    And they’re dirty big balls
    And he’s got big balls
    And she’s got big balls
    (But we’ve got the biggest balls of them all)

    And my balls are always bouncing
    My ballroom always full
    And everybody cums and cums again
    If your name is on the guest list
    No one can take you higher
    Everybody says I’ve got
    Great balls of fire

    I’ve got big balls
    Oh I’ve got big balls
    And they’re such big balls
    Dirty big balls
    And he’s got big balls
    And she’s got big balls
    (But we’ve got the biggest balls of them all)

    Some balls are held for charity
    And some for fancy dress
    But when they’re held for pleasure
    They’re the balls that I like best
    My balls are always bouncing
    To the left and to the right
    It’s my belief that my big balls
    Should be held every night

    We’ve got big balls
    We’ve got big balls
    We’ve got big balls
    Dirty big balls
    He’s got big balls
    She’s got big balls
    (But we’ve got the biggest balls of them all)

    (We’ve got big balls)
    (We’ve got big balls)

    And I’m just itching to tell you about them
    Oh we had such wonderful fun
    Seafood cocktail, crabs, crayfish
    (But we’ve got the biggest balls of them all)

    (Ball sucker)
    (Ball sucker)
    (Ball sucker)
    (Ball sucker)

  • Found a video of all you “upper class”people.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MqObJtGrKaA

  • NOT THAT I HAVE ANYTHING SERIOUSLY AGAINST POLO OR GOLF, BUT I’M NOT THE BIGOT THAT SAYS NO TO EVERYONE ELSE’S HOBBY..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43Egm0j_p1A&NR=1

  • NOT THAT I HAVE ANYTHING SERIOUSLY AGAINST POLO OR GOLF, BUT I’M NOT THE BIGOT THAT SAYS NO TO EVERYONE ELSE’S HOBBY..

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43Egm0j_p1A&NR=1

  • Only 4 million plus people living on Long Island alone, and you don’t think there is a big enough population to draw from for motorsports? That’s just plain stupid! BTW, those eating and drinking on the grounds will have to BUY all that food and drink somewhere. Many pick it up on their way to the facility, from local stores. That’s just plain stupid! As far as the statement about minimum wage jobs and illegals, the facility has no control over that. Write to your representatives to cure that problem, or are you really just plain stupid?
    Doing something with this property, instead of just leaving it unused while yet another study goes on, is also just plain stupid. So I guess this means ‘guest’ must be somehow related to the politico’s that are doing nothing, instead of doing something productive with their ASSET!

  • Art – Please site your references for your comments on the “soiled bedding” issue. Is it the bedding itself (pine shavings usually) or the interaction of the pine bedding with the horse manure/urine? Has Cornell Extension or LI Farm Bureau released any findings? If you know the answers to these questions, then us “horse people” are willing to listen…

  • Wow and I thought I was just a hard working American citizen.Now I’m being accused of being a lower class of person because I LOVE MOTORSPORTS and I guess my sons are lower class too because they love motorsports.Corporate America must be low class too dumping all the money they do into racing.Your a CLOWN mr.guest for some reason I have the feeling your the furthest thing from AMERICAN there can be.To make such an ignorant statement as that. I have to wonder if you don’t have something to do with the Polo nonsense.

  • A racetrack will bring jobs and money to the area, I don’t know why the town can’t get this through their head’s. Polo?! REALLY?! I don’t know anyone who will go out of their way to go upstate or anywhere else to see a polo match. NY doesn’t even take soccer seriously. Anyone ever go to the Meadowlands to see the New York Redbull play? The only time people care about these sports is when there’s a national championship once ever couple of years. Racing happends every year, and a track could be used for not only NASCAR, whether is be the three major divisoins, but as another spot for the Modified tour come to, or some of the other lower late model divions to come to. It could be used on weekends from April-September. Let’s not forget a drag strip too for the NHRA guys. But no, let’s build a polo stadium. You never know, it could one day be used for a professional baseball and/or football team, to then be torn down for housing…I think something similar happened about 50 years ago in NYC.

    http://www.facebook.com/buildcalvertonspeedway#!/photo.php?fbid=161892183849349&set=pu.127150217323546&type=1&theater

    Size comparison of Richmond Int’l Raceway (3/4 mile) to EPCAL

  • A racetrack will bring jobs and money to the area, I don’t know why the town can’t get this through their head’s. Polo?! REALLY?! I don’t know anyone who will go out of their way to go upstate or anywhere else to see a polo match. NY doesn’t even take soccer seriously. Anyone ever go to the Meadowlands to see the New York Redbull play? The only time people care about these sports is when there’s a national championship once ever couple of years. Racing happends every year, and a track could be used for not only NASCAR, whether is be the three major divisoins, but as another spot for the Modified tour come to, or some of the other lower late model divions to come to. It could be used on weekends from April-September. Let’s not forget a drag strip too for the NHRA guys. But no, let’s build a polo stadium. You never know, it could one day be used for a professional baseball and/or football team, to then be torn down for housing…I think something similar happened about 50 years ago in NYC.

    http://www.facebook.com/buildcalvertonspeedway#!/photo.php?fbid=161892183849349&set=pu.127150217323546&type=1&theater

    Size comparison of Richmond Int’l Raceway (3/4 mile) to EPCAL

  • A racetrack will bring jobs and money to the area, I don’t know why the town can’t get this through their head’s. Polo?! REALLY?! I don’t know anyone who will go out of their way to go upstate or anywhere else to see a polo match. NY doesn’t even take soccer seriously. Anyone ever go to the Meadowlands to see the New York Redbull play? The only time people care about these sports is when there’s a national championship once ever couple of years. Racing happends every year, and a track could be used for not only NASCAR, whether is be the three major divisoins, but as another spot for the Modified tour come to, or some of the other lower late model divions to come to. It could be used on weekends from April-September. Let’s not forget a drag strip too for the NHRA guys. But no, let’s build a polo stadium. You never know, it could one day be used for a professional baseball and/or football team, to then be torn down for housing…I think something similar happened about 50 years ago in NYC.

    http://www.facebook.com/buildcalvertonspeedway#!/photo.php?fbid=161892183849349&set=pu.127150217323546&type=1&theater

    Size comparison of Richmond Int’l Raceway (3/4 mile) to EPCAL

  • How about all that flooding or Raw Sewage in our streets, yards and broken underground sewer system.Would you think that can cause a problem with the upper glacial aquifers ?