School board to vote on allowing superintendent to set bond vote date

04/26/2011 9:51 AM |

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The Riverhead school board could vote tonight to allow Superintendent Nancy Carney to set a date for the public to vote on a multi-million bond proposal to improve the district’s aging infrastructure.

A resolution on tonight’s board meeting agenda, if approved, would allow Ms. Carney to schedule that date for “prior” to Sept. 30.

A committee of community members, teachers and administrators has been meeting monthly since last fall to devise a new plan to undertake capital improvements at the district’s buildings and grounds.

Last February, voters overwhelmingly rejected a $123 million bond proposal that would have been paid for with taxpayer money over two decades.

The committee, titled the Community Partnership for Revitalization, will officially recommend the plan to the school board in May. The board will then decide whether or not to adopt the plan as-is, or to make changes.

The district also plans on applying for a $5 million loan from the state and federal government through the Qualified School Construction Bonds program, which could be used to offset some of the project’s cost. The loan’s interest would be paid for through the state.

The application deadline is May 6, and under state guidelines the bond vote date must be scheduled for sometime before a Sept. 30 in order to be eligible, school officials said Tuesday afternoon.

Click to see a copy of tonight’s agenda:April 26

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  • There is no good reason for this vote to not be held on the same day as the general budget vote.

    Any other date for the bond vote well simply be an attempt to manipulate the outcome by suppressing turnout.

    Don’t try to schedule this in the dead of winter, or on some oddball day that you think no one but parents will show up on.

    Carney, the taxpayers are already up in arms, don’t risk even more ire. We’re not stupid.

  • IT WILL BE BEFORE SEPT 30..

  • This has been the MO of the administration for years. They purposely schedule votes on different dates to ensure a favorable vote! It’s time to hold everything on the same day!

  • Why not just put it up for a vote on the same day as the school budget vote?

    Maybe the school needs more time to “educate” us by sending pro-expansion propoganda, at our expense, like they did last time. (btw, don’t forget to send a spanish language version of the same materials as well, so we can be reminded that we’re paying to educate Guatemala’s children).

  • I agree with NR. Let’s put this issue to vote and get it PAST! Our children deserve to be educated in facilities that aren’t a complete embarrassment. It will increase property values and benefit the entire community. This bond should have past the first time around so enough of the BS and let’s get it done. This town seems to be stuck in two speeds…..stop and reverse.

  • The Riverhead School District has the highest property taxes on the east end.

    Raise taxes with this bond and home values will go down, not up.

  • NR…..all due respect….property taxes are and always will be a major issue for ALL of Long Island. This should not be the continued excuse to keep our district in shambles. The benefits of updating our schools far exceed the cost. In fact, failure to pass this bond now while the cost of borrowing remain low will cost us much more in the future. Now’s the time.

  • I WOULD LOVE IT TO BE THE SAME DAY ..HOWEVER THE BOARD HAS NOT SEN IT AND THEY MUST APPROVE IT OR CHANGE IT.THE COMMITTEE IS ONLY PUT THIS TOGETHER AS A SUGGESTION..THE 5 MILL THEY ARE GOING AFTER THAT IS TALKED ABOUT IN THE ARTICLE ..HAS DATES IN ORDER TO APPLY FOR IT..I BELIEVE IT HAS TO BE VOTED ON BEFORE SEPT 30..IF I’M WRONG WILL SOMEONE FROM THE COMMITTEE CORRECT ME PLEASE.

  • STEP UP….OUR SCHOOLS ARE NOT IN SHAMBLES..HOWEVER IF MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR MONEY WAS IN THE BUDGETS FOR THE LAST 20/25 YEARS WE WOULDN’T BE HERE.I KNOW FAMILIES IN THIS TOWN THAT ARE GOING UNDER FORECLOSURE ..SAD PUT TRUE …

    EVERYONE DO WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO TO SURVIVE …NOBODY KNOWS WHATS IN YOUR POCKETBOOK BUT YOU….

  • Step Up, the people in Riverhead don’t make the money the people in other districts do. The FACT IS that people choose to buy in Southold rather than Riverhead because of the taxes. I see it every day. We cannot afford this. Our taxes are way out of whack with our property values already.

  • Good post Laurie!

  • SOMETHING I FORGOT..OUR SCHOOL DISTRICT HAS ALMOST 50% OF OUR STUDENTS ON FREE OR REDUCED LUNCH AND BREAKFAST.THAT SHOWS WHAT THE PARENTS ARE DEALING WITH…THAT IS A LOT..ALMOST 2,500 FAMILIES CAN NOT AFFORD TO FEED THEIR KIDS BREAKFAST AND LUNCH.

  • Our schools are absolutely not in a shambles. When I ask my kids to corroborate the claims, they tell me that the school is not falling apart and the only reason the hallways are crowded is because of the way the classes change. Unless you offset the times for classes and the kids actually move, you will always have a large number of kids in the hallways (just their opinion).

    In addition to the taxes that I pay living in Flanders, I also pay an additional $2000 for my kids’ lunches. I also disagree with our schools being an embarrassment. How our schools look has absolutely nothing to do with the quality of the education that they get. That is directly related to the quality of the teachers and the involvement and value that we parents place on education.

    Please let me know who will want to buy my house in Flanders when my taxes (alone) are $15,000. Oh and while we are on the subject of math, I would like to see the ENTIRE cost of the bond laid out in terms of the initial 80 million borrowed PLUS the interest rate over the next 20 years. Even at 5% interest the total comes out to $160 million (4 mill in interest a year)…..Ask the ESM district residents how they feel about their taxes (they were told they would never go up).

    Before we can have the schools that everyone has imagined will cure the twin forks of their embarrassment, our demographics absolutely MUST change. I don’t see that happening any time soon. Our family is already stretched financially and it isn’t because WE spend more than we make. It is simply because OTHERS seem to have no problem spending it for us.

    I have a hard time swallowing a story that basically says oops we “forgot about adding funding for maintenance into our budget (for the past 20+ years).” Really? Ummm my car dealer doesn’t care when it is time for me to pay for maintenance on my car, but maybe I will try the “but I didn’t factor maintenance in” argument…..let me make it up to you in oh about 20 years.

    Appreciate your insight Laurie.

  • Very good response. It is absolutely GALLING to discover that they cut the maintenance all those years in order to maintain their own salary increases. I’ve always wondered about the relatively small amount that our school budget increased every year in comparison to other districts. Now I know why.

  • It sounds ridiculous However while sitting in these meetings one night a ex-board member was sitting next to me.She was on the board for a very long time about 13 or 14 years.She told me how they would remove that money because the kids wouldn’t loose out .So it is the truth ..I have no reason to sling the bull.It’s Riverhead mentality…
    I feel for the Flanders side with all that put on you…I couldn’t do it for sure….Your right beautiful schools don’t mean better education..a child can be educated anywhere…

  • Plus they have flat out stated in the bond committee meetings that was the reason why the maintenance was cut numerouse times when asked how the buildings were allowed to deteriorate to such an extent..

  • Its not about having bueatiful schools…..its about having safe, healthy efficient buildings to education our children. If that costs me a couple of hundred bucks a year so be it. I’ll have my kids bring lunch a few times to cover it or cut out the morning Starbucks. I do agree with Guest who states that “demographics absolutely MUST change”. This would mean everyone on the Southhampton side should go to Southhampton schools. This would cut Riverhead student populations significantly, free up plenty of space and reduce the cost of any bond. We can also lease the Phillips building to the Southampton district for extra revenue. Good idea Guest.

  • THANK YOU FOR BACKING ME UP..GUEST

  • Step Up… do you mean get PASSED, as in approved, or PAST ,as in behind us???

  • I agree everyone on the Southampton side should go to Southampton schools. I wonder if ANYTHING could be done to accomplish that. In the meantime, the teachers can pass the hat to make the repairs as far as I’m concerned. They are the only people here left with money in their pocket at the end of the week.

  • As per education law: Boards of education should therefore avoid presenting separate propositions for items enumerated for inclusion in one of the budget components. Such practice makes it more difficult for taxpayers to understand the true cost of a district’s educational program and has the potential negative effects outlined herein.

  • Keep the following salaries in mind when you go to the voting booth:

    title salary benefits other

    1 Superintendent of Schools 212,500 42,652 20,000
    2 Asst. Supt. For Finance & Operations 175,000 39,073 5,000
    2 Asst. Supt. For Curriculum & Development 171,923 38,753 5,000
    2 Asst. Supt. For Personnel & Community Relations 169,648 38,534 2,733
    3 Principal – High School 174,598 0 0
    3 Asst Principal – High School 123,318 0 0
    3 Asst Principal – High School 123,318 0 0
    3 Assoc Principal – High School 145,246 0 0
    3 Principal – Middle School 164,053 0 0
    3 Asst Principal – Middle School 127,133 0 0
    3 Principal – Elementary School 147,099 0 0
    3 Principal – Elementary School 142,568 0 0
    3 Principal – Elementary School 158,874 0 0
    3 Principal – Elementary School 128,282 0 0
    3 Principal – Elementary School 158,874 0 0
    3 Asst Principal – Elementary School 127,133 0 0
    3 Principal – Elementary School 158,874 0 0
    3 Asst Principal – Elementary School 137,969 0 0
    3 Director Of English 133,838 0 0
    3 Director Of Math 123,417 0 0
    3 Director Of Science 133,838 0 0
    3 Director Of Fine Arts 123,417 0 0
    3 Director Of Esl 129,688 0 0
    3 Director Of Guidance 133,838 0 0
    3 Director Of Athletics 158,874 0 0
    3 Director Of Special Education & Pps 158,874 0 0
    3 Asst Director Of Special Education & Pps 141,557 0 0
    3 Plant Facilties Administrator 123,594 0 0

  • Riverhead does not have 15 Directors….,9 asst principals in the hs..and so on

    Each Elementary school has just one principal and one asst principal.

    Hester stop throwing around junk ..your post is way out of line…..

  • A few years back that was all looked into..according to what I was told ,The Town of Southampton would have to vote to take you back.Along with that I was told…(no disrespect)They don’t want THOSE kids in their schools.There is nothing wrong with your kids..kids are kids However that was what was floating around.If Flanders was able to leave they can leave with the building so you would still have a neighborhood school.
    The move would make it easier on your area .I guess back in the 50s when the area asked to be part of the Riverhead district nobody used their crystal ball to look into the future..sad…

  • Sorry…lol…meant PASSED….good catch.

  • RHS should file a lawsuit against the Southampton District to demand redistricting due to lack of space. That’s probably on the way it will even be considered. There are great kids on the Southampton side and the District should welcome the idea not hide behind a “those kids” mentality. Of course, it should be a phrased in approach as the kids transition from one school to another. This is wishful thinking a won’t happend in our life time. In the meantime we do need to consider the issues that need to be address before they get worse……like an 80 million dollar lawsuit from the parents who’s kid slips on ice as they head out to one of those portable classrooms or 100 million for when a roof collaspes and injures students. I’ll be the first to file if it should happend to one of my kids. PASS the bond.

  • The reason why our buildings are a shambles is because the over paid administrators have done absolutly nothing over the past 20 or so years but fatten their own pockets. Now all of a sudden they scramble to try and shove a 123million dollar bond down our throat. That fails like the administration has failed our kids and the taxpayer so they insult our intellegence by forming a committee with residents to try and put another one over on us. No Thank You!

  • We do have 8 assistant superintendants, though, who each make around 160,000.

  • If at first you don’t succeed in stuffing a 123 million construction bond issue down the throats of Riverhead’s taxpayers,try,try again. SS/DD. The Supt. and her assistants make way too much money, not to come up with a better solution to what they claim is schools in shambles. The District is proposing a budget increase to taxpayers of over 4%. Would some one please explain the justification of school employees outrageous salaries when all they can do is keep raising taxes every year if they are neglecting the basic maintenance of the place where they work. Wow, job well done!

  • ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENT TO PERSONNEL-OGEKA
    ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENT OF CURRICULUM-ETZEL
    ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENT OF BUSINESS -INTERIM SINGELTON
    OUR DIRECTORS HAVE BEEN CUT BACK WHERE THEY HAVE TO DO CURRICULUM K-12 GRADE FOR MORE THAN ONE SUBJECT.THE ASSOCIATE PRINCIPAL WICKS TOOK OVER FOR THE PRINCIPAL THAT LEFT AND WICKS OLD POSITION IS not GOING TO BE REPLACED.
    LAST BUDGET ALL THE ASST SUPERS,THE SUPER AND THE DIRECTORS .ALONG WITH THE PRINCIPALS AND ASST PRINCIPALS TOOK no RAISES…tHAT STANDS TO BE THE SAME AGAIN THIS YEAR.
    WE ONLY HAVE ONE PLANT FACILITIES ADMINISTRATOR
    WE ONLY HAVE ONE DIRECTOR TO SPECIAL ED..THE 2ND GUY IS GONE
    WE ONLY HAVE ONE DIRECTOR OF ATHLETICS
    WE ONLY HAVE ONE GUIDANCE DIRECTOR..

  • ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENT TO PERSONNEL-OGEKA $168,684
    ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENT OF CURRICULUM-ETZEL $ 128,058
    ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENT OF BUSINESS -INTERIM SINGELTON $800 A DAY!!!! Many people in Riverhead don’t make $800 a WEEK!!!!

    OUR DIRECTORS HAVE BEEN CUT BACK WHERE THEY HAVE TO DO CURRICULUM K-12 GRADE FOR MORE THAN ONE SUBJECT.THE ASSOCIATE PRINCIPAL WICKS TOOK OVER FOR THE PRINCIPAL THAT LEFT AND WICKS OLD POSITION IS not GOING TO BE REPLACED.
    LAST BUDGET ALL THE ASST SUPERS,THE SUPER AND THE DIRECTORS .ALONG WITH THE PRINCIPALS AND ASST PRINCIPALS TOOK no RAISES…tHAT STANDS TO BE THE SAME AGAIN THIS YEAR.
    WE ONLY HAVE ONE PLANT FACILITIES ADMINISTRATOR
    WE ONLY HAVE ONE DIRECTOR TO SPECIAL ED..THE 2ND GUY IS GONE
    WE ONLY HAVE ONE DIRECTOR OF ATHLETICS
    WE ONLY HAVE ONE GUIDANCE DIRECTOR..

    Laurie, NYC schools have one administrator. This is a STEP in the right direction. How much of raise should a principal take when they are already making well into 100,000? How much of a raise did YOU get? How many directors do we need? In the real world people are doing the job of 2 or 3 people and getting paid LESS and working more hours. Obviously with all these “cut backs” the children still are doing OK. Too bad they couldn’t have foregone the raises earlier, they wouldn’t have to stick us with the bond. Cut them more. We are broke and can’t bleed any more money.

  • ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENT TO PERSONNEL-OGEKA $168,684
    ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENT OF CURRICULUM-ETZEL $ 128,058
    ASSISTANT SUPERINTENDENT OF BUSINESS -INTERIM SINGELTON $800 A DAY!!!! Many people in Riverhead don’t make $800 a WEEK!!!!

    OUR DIRECTORS HAVE BEEN CUT BACK WHERE THEY HAVE TO DO CURRICULUM K-12 GRADE FOR MORE THAN ONE SUBJECT.THE ASSOCIATE PRINCIPAL WICKS TOOK OVER FOR THE PRINCIPAL THAT LEFT AND WICKS OLD POSITION IS not GOING TO BE REPLACED.
    LAST BUDGET ALL THE ASST SUPERS,THE SUPER AND THE DIRECTORS .ALONG WITH THE PRINCIPALS AND ASST PRINCIPALS TOOK no RAISES…tHAT STANDS TO BE THE SAME AGAIN THIS YEAR.
    WE ONLY HAVE ONE PLANT FACILITIES ADMINISTRATOR
    WE ONLY HAVE ONE DIRECTOR TO SPECIAL ED..THE 2ND GUY IS GONE
    WE ONLY HAVE ONE DIRECTOR OF ATHLETICS
    WE ONLY HAVE ONE GUIDANCE DIRECTOR..

    Laurie, NYC schools have one administrator. This is a STEP in the right direction. How much of raise should a principal take when they are already making well into 100,000? How much of a raise did YOU get? How many directors do we need? In the real world people are doing the job of 2 or 3 people and getting paid LESS and working more hours. Obviously with all these “cut backs” the children still are doing OK. Too bad they couldn’t have foregone the raises earlier, they wouldn’t have to stick us with the bond. Cut them more. We are broke and can’t bleed any more money.

  • PS above were simply salaries, not salaries and BENEFITS.

  • PS above were simply salaries, not salaries and BENEFITS.

  • Thank You for helping me along and yes it is true these salaries do not reflect the Benefits